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O’DONNELL: What do you think of Sen. Hillary Clinton?

E. KUCINICH: In what way?

O’DONNELL: What do you think of a first lady running for president?

E. KUCINICH: I think it’s fine for a first lady to run for president. I think it’s very important that people understand her position, understand the policies that are underneath the smile and underneath the lines that are very well-rehearsed, and it is up to people really to take democracy into their own hands and really take this presidential campaign and election very, very seriously.

O’DONNELL: I have to ask you about two very interesting things. Because America has had a traditional of having traditional first ladies, if you will. You would be the youngest first lady ever if your husband were elected president. You have a tongue ring. What about that?

E. KUCINICH: What about that?

O’DONNELL: Well, it’s very unusual. I don’t know that there are many political spouses who have tongue rings.

E. KUCINICH: I’m 30 years old. I’ve had it for 10 years. I don’t see it as being a problem. I do still wear pearls.

O’DONNELL: So you can do both. Let me also ask about something you recorded in Time Magazine, is that your ideal day would be to have a champagne brunch on Sunday and sleep till 4, and you said “a la John Lennon, Yoko Ono style.” Do you do that regularly?

E. KUCINICH: No. The reason why I would like that is because we’re always on the campaign trail. If we get in bed before 2 in the morning, it’s a dream. And after 7 is a lay-in. So normally we get four hours of sleep on the campaign trail. It’s incredibly hectic. So I think that to dream of sleep is while your eyes is open are something which is quite nice.

O’DONNELL: If you were first lady, what would be your signature issue?

E. KUCINICH: I think that there are many, many issues that really need to be addressed in America. Health care being a very primary one — needing a true single-payer, not-for-profit health care system and a universal system, Medicare for all. The only true universal system. It’s being called out for by the American people. It’s a life-or-death issue. And when I sit and listen to these debates and I sit in that front row and I listen to all of these people talk about universal health care as if they’ve got religion and then read the policies that they’ve got, understanding full well that there will be premiums, co-pays and deductibles, then I know that really the American people are being done a disservice and really want to stand up for the American people.

I also believe that America becomes strong when it really reconnects with its heart. When it really goes and reconnects with its aspirations and its ideals. Reclaims the founding fathers’ and mothers’ ideas for this country. And we have seen over time how the Constitution has been completely shredded and how Congress will not stand up for it, it really is time for a president who will do that and also a first lady that stands up and, yes, one that is an international one who sees America in a different way, who sees the potential for America and who loves this country, and that’s why I came.

O’DONNELL: Well, Elizabeth Kucinich. It was great getting to know you and having this time together. Thank you so much, and good luck to you and your husband on the campaign trail.

E. KUCINICH: Thank you.

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