updated 10/4/2010 11:34:24 AM ET 2010-10-04T15:34:24

Guests: Al Sharpton, Ed Rendell, Mike Papantonio, Ben Jealous, Karen

Hunter, Heidi Harris, Holland Cooke, Lizz Winstead

ED SCHULTZ, MSNBC ANCHOR:  Good evening, Americans, and welcome to THE ED SHOW tonight from the nation‘s capital.

These stories are hitting “My Hot Buttons” at this hour.

OK, enough is enough.  The Republicans and conservative talkers in this country have divided us long enough.  Tomorrow, we are marching to bring this nation together. 

My fight for the good jobs, better education, and a diverse America, plus reaction from Reverend Al Sharpton and NAACP president Ben Jealous coming up tonight here on the program. 

And I want to know where the Tea Party queen Christine O‘Donnell has gone.  She‘s hiding from cameras.  Maybe she‘s renting Cheney‘s bunker.  I don‘t know. 

Her academic record is again in question.  I‘ll give her my lesson coming up in the “Playbook” tonight. 

And after throwing a million bucks at the Republican Governors Association, Uncle Rupert‘s News Corps, the parent company of Fox News, sent another $1 million check, this time to the right-wing Chamber of Commerce.  I find the whole thing absolutely disgusting.

And you know what?  Does that mean the Democrats who are in business shouldn‘t be a member of the Chamber of Commerce?  We‘ll talk about that tonight. 

But this is the story that has me fired up tonight. 

At this hour, hundreds of thousands of people are descending on Washington, D.C., to take part in tomorrow‘s One Nation Rally on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.  I am honored—more than honored—to be a part of this and be a featured speaker. 

I‘ve spent countless hours crisscrossing this country, meeting some great people, meeting Americans who feel like their voices aren‘t being heard.  My mission tomorrow is to speak for them. 

One Nation is an extremely diverse collection of the largest labor organizations, the NAACP, and hundreds of other groups who want to make sure that their voices are heard.  What can be more American than that, my friends? 

Of course America‘s fake prophet and resident hate merchant across the street doesn‘t seem to think it looks that way.  Look at what Beck said about people going to this rally tomorrow. 

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

GLENN BECK, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST:  And I mean this sincerely.  Pat, is it not a watch—an FBI watch list under any other administration? 

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:  Oh, absolutely. 

BECK:  Under any other administration it‘s an FBI watch list.  And this one is wholly supported by the president and his allies. 

(END AUDIO CLIP)

SCHULTZ:  Beck is doing his absolute best to talk down this rally because he‘s afraid America will see a massive group of people who are rejecting his fear-mongering across the board. 

Here are some of the groups that Beck seems to be concerned about: The Answer Coalition, Code Pink, United for Peace and Justice, Veterans for Peace, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Communist Party USA, and the Democratic Socialists of America. 

Now, let‘s put the cards on the table.  I don‘t align myself with absolutely everything these groups stand for, but this rally, my friends, is going to be a lesson for this country when it comes to free speech. 

I‘m not giving up the microphone because I disagree with a few voices that are going to be out in the crowd.  America is a melting pot, a melting pot of ideas, and that‘s how we celebrate our democracy.  It‘s about inclusion, not exclusion, not about exclusivity. 

Beck‘s Tea Party wants nothing to do with diversity, nothing to do with inclusion.  Some of them demonstrate with racist signs and run around screaming about taking their country back.  Taking their country back to what? 

This Saturday‘s march is about keeping our resolve and pushing back on the Tea Party message.  This country belongs to all of us, and everyone should have an equal opportunity at the American dream. 

Ever since President Obama was sworn in, the Tea Party crazies and Glenn Beck have just soaked up the spotlight, made this a big thing about how we‘re not America.  Tomorrow, all of that ends at noon. 

We‘re not going to let these naysayers mischaracterize what freedom is all about.  I want—my motivation tomorrow comes from people that I have met on the road doing town hall meetings. 

We were in San Diego about four years ago, and a gentleman came up to me—I was just getting ready to go on the stage—and he was a laborer.  He had a jean jacket on.  He had gray hair.  He had a hard face.  You could tell that he‘d been working in the sun. 

He shook my hand and, I mean, it was a labor handshake.  He pointed to his mouth and he pointed to his ear, and he went like this. 

I said, “You can‘t talk and you can‘t hear?”  He handed me a sheet of paper. 

I put it in my pocket, I got up, I spoke to the crowd.  That night, when my wife and I were on our way home on the plane, I was cleaning out my pockets.  You know when you get on the road people give you stuff.  So I pulled out this piece of paper, and this gentleman had given me a note and I was reading it on the plane. 

He said, “Ed Schultz, you are my ears and you are my voice.  I can‘t talk and I can‘t hear.  I have special equipment at home, and that‘s how I listen to your show.  Please don‘t give up.”

Tomorrow, before I take the stage, I will think about that gentleman that I met in San Diego four years ago.  And I will think about speaking for him.

And I could tell by his handshake that he was a working man.  I could tell by his handshake that he was a wage earner and he needed someone to speak for him.

And I have prayed so much over the years to understand where that man was coming from.  And tomorrow, when I go on the Lincoln Memorial, and it‘s my turn to speak, I will think about that man, and I will think about what he said to me in that note.  And I still have that note at home on my dresser. 

Get your cell phones out, folks.  I want know to what you think. 

Tonight‘s text survey question is: Should any group, any voice, anyone be excluded from tomorrow‘s One Nation March on Washington? 

Text “A” for yes, text “B” for no to 622639.  We‘ll bring you the results later on in the show.

A man who I admire, who has worked hard for people in his life, joining me now, is Reverend Al Sharpton, the president of the National Action Network. 

Reverend, great to have you with us tonight.

REV. AL SHARPTON, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK:  Glad to be here with you. 

SCHULTZ:  What does this mean? 

SHARPTON:  It means bringing the country together.  We don‘t all agree, as you said, on every particular point, but we agree that when it comes to jobs, when it comes to education, when it comes to justice, we can come with a consensus of what is going to move the country forward.

And I think what you and the labor leaders and civil rights groups, all of us that are really true patriots, who are trying to bring the country together, we can debate the particulars and we can say that we don‘t think what you‘re saying in this area, that area is right.  But general thrust of this country coming together around things like health care, things like education, and providing jobs, that‘s what tomorrow is about. 

SCHULTZ:  Reverend, when did this start? 

SHARPTON:  In the spring.  The labor unions and civil rights groups began meeting. 

I went to the first meeting in the spring of this year, and I think that as the—it progressed.  The circle got even larger. 

The first meeting, we had everyone from Harry Belafonte and (INAUDIBLE) 99, to Ben Jealous and myself from National Action Network.  And I think that as this was driven, it made a particular thing—that it had to be broad, it was not going to be a thing of just representing one interest group or one race or one group. 

It wanted to really say one nation.  And the diversity you‘ll see tomorrow and the inclusion, I think, is something unlike we‘ve seen in recent history in a divisive kind of politics. 

SCHULTZ:  Do you think there will be popular results out of this for the progressive movement of America?  I mean, is this really a turning point, with all the negativity that‘s been out there, all the critique that‘s been out there about the progressive movement and the obstruction that has taken place? 

We‘ve seen 40 people in the United states Senate say no and stop a lot of legislative stuff right in its tracks.  Is this march going to make a difference? 

SHARPTON:  I think this march has the potential to if we can tell those people tomorrow to go home and go to work.  We cannot leave Washington saying we had a nice big rally.  Washington‘s used to rallies. 

We have got to use it as a jump-off point to go home and get our communities, door by door, block by block, church by church, group by group to organize around turning out in the midterm election and turn back what the Republicans and the right-wingers have predicted.  Nothing would be better than to wake up November 3rd and say you know this whole Republican political tsunami that was predicted?  It didn‘t come.  There‘s nothing better then a storm being predicted and you wake up the next morning and the sun is still shining. 

SCHULTZ:  October 2nd is all about November 2nd, but I think, personally, this is a lot bigger than the president.  This is about a movement.  This is a generational push.  And if we lose the majority, it‘s a big start-over.  It changes everything. 

SHARPTON:  No, I think the president has said that about anyone.  This is not just about him. 

This is about taking us in a direction that reverses the direction that put us in an economic and a political ditch.  And as he said, you don‘t give the same people that drove you into the ditch the keys to the car. 

I‘m saying some of us in the car didn‘t even have seat belts on and the air bag didn‘t go on, or for some of us, our head went through the windshield.  This is about making sure that we come out of that ditch and keep going in the right direction, rather than come out of that ditch going in the direction of the people that drove us in there.

That‘s bigger than one election.  But what we‘ve got to make sure is on November 2nd, we don‘t reverse which we‘re going and we keep going forward. 

It‘s bigger than President Obama.  He‘s the driver.  The direction is what we must vote for.

SCHULTZ:  Reverend Al Sharpton, great to have you with us.

SHARPTON:  Looking forward to hearing you tomorrow and being with you on that stage.

SCHULTZ:  I am looking forward to it, no doubt about it.

Now let‘s bring in Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell.

Governor, good to have you with us tonight. 

This rally, the results of this hopefully will be people in Pennsylvania, people in other states across America engaging.  And in your state of Pennsylvania, Joe Sestak is in a heated battle with Pat Toomey. 

Do you think this rally can make a difference? 

GOV. ED RENDELL (D), PENNSYLVANIA:  Sure.  I think anything that sends out a clarion call to base Democratic voters and Independents who care about the direction of this country is a positive.  And I think this can be something that energizes that base. 

We‘re trying very hard to get them energized.  We‘re trying to tell them the good things that are happening.

Health care, eight or nine important changes went into effect this month in Pennsylvania.  We‘re telling people that and we‘re proud of what we‘ve accomplished.

We‘re trying to wake up and say let‘s get out there.  Sure, it hasn‘t been perfect, but we have got to get out there and vote to protect our future.  And I think the message is starting to get through. 

Joe and Dan Onorato, our gubernatorial candidate, have moved up in polls from a very precarious position last week to being in the hunt, almost close to the margin of error already, Ed.  And if we can keep the people being awakened to this, I think we have a chance, as Reverend Sharpton said, duck a storm this November and have some really good results. 

SCHULTZ:  Ed, there‘s a lot unemployed people in this country, upwards of 15 million people.  They could make a big difference.  And a lot of them are disenchanted, feeling like they‘ve been left behind. 

How important is it for the Democrats to give them confidence that if the Democrats keep the majority, those people‘s problems will be addressed much better than what the Republicans can do? 

What do you think about that?

RENDELL:  Well, I think that‘s crucial.  If that voting bloc was mobilized, it could make a huge difference.  And I think we‘ve got a very clear message to them.  Who fought to extend unemployment?

You were laid off because of what some greedy billionaires did on Wall Street.  And who fought to protect you and extend your unemployment benefits?  The Democratic Party did.

We almost had no Republicans joining us in that effort.  That‘s a thing we should keep driving home as hard as we can and as forcibly we can in that group.

Who‘s got the best job creation plans?  Look, the president‘s stimulus has done much better than it gets credit for, but the president‘s current plans are right on target for creating jobs, good-paying jobs that can‘t be outsourced right here in America.  We‘ve got to just drive home that message. 

I‘ve never seen an election like this, Ed, where it‘s not a question of persuasion, it‘s a question of just making people feel it‘s worthwhile getting out to vote.  And remember, everyone says the Tea Party‘s so wildly enthusiastic.  Well, the last time I checked, Ed, a mildly tepid counts—one mildly tepid vote counts the same as one wily enthusiastic vote.  So we‘ve got work cut out for us, but this rally I think can be an important catalyst, a very important catalyst. 

But I want to say one other thing.  It‘s more than just political.  I think Reverend Sharpton alluded to that.

What you‘re doing, I think, can energize our base.  But it‘s time that somebody, a large group of people, stood up and said this is one country, we‘re not going to divide each other anymore. 

The horrible anti-Muslim feeling that was perpetrated—the best thing I‘ve done in my 33 years in politics, we had a rally on a Saturday night in Independence Hall in which we had clerics of every faith talking about how the Koran was a good book and how our Muslim-Americans are good citizens. 

Chris Matthews covered it a little bit on his show.  It was the best feeling I‘ve had in all of my political career.

SCHULTZ:  It is about inclusion.

Governor Rendell, great to have you with us tonight.  Appreciate your time.

RENDELL:  Good luck tomorrow.  Good luck.

SCHULTZ:  Thanks so much.  I think we‘re going to have a great crowd.

Coming up, more monkey business is suspected on Christine O‘Donnell‘s academic record.  She‘s still hiding from the cameras.  I think she needs to meet the press. 

And after threatening to take out a reporter, “Crazy Karl” is in hot water, and those kids over at Fox are scrapping (ph) about it.  I‘ll get some “Rapid Fire Response” on that.

All that, plus “The Drugster” pretends to be a family guy; Michele Bachmann is a back-stabber; and “Daily Show” co-creator Lizz Winstead is in the house for “Club Ed.”

You‘re watching THE ED SHOW on MSNBC from Washington, D.C.  Stay with us.  We‘re right back. 

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHULTZ:  Welcome back to THE ED SHOW and thanks for watching tonight. 

Rupert Murdoch‘s News Corp. has made another massive donation to the righties.  This summer, Fox News‘ parent company contributed $1 million to the Republican Governors Association.  That opened up a few eyes.

Now it turns out they gave the same amount to the United States Chamber of Commerce.  The chamber, using the money, has slammed the Obama administration for being hostile to economic growth.  That‘s the claim.  And it plans to spend up to $75 million supporting mostly Republican candidates this year, including Carly Fiorina out of California and Rand Paul in Kentucky. 

Does that sound fair and balanced to you on this deal? 

Let me bring in Mike Papantonio, host of the nationally syndicated radio talk show “Ring of Fire.” 

This is—I have to tell you, though, Mike, it doesn‘t bother me.  Because now we definitely know that they‘re not fair and balanced.  Now we definitely know where the money is.  Follow the money, you know exactly what‘s going on. 

Your thoughts on that?

MIKE PAPANTONIO, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST:  What‘s really scary about it, Ed, is now we‘re seeing what Citizens United does to the Democratic process.  Citizens United we knew was an important decision.  We knew the U.S. Supreme Court had become such a lapdog for corporate America. 

They were trying to figure out a way to let the Rupert Murdochs of this country give away as much money as they can, but it‘s a lot worse than that.  You talk about the Chamber of Commerce, the Chamber of Commerce people think is an organization that represents mom-and-pop business all over America.  Nothing‘s further from the truth. 

They have 19 companies that are putting gazillions of dollars into this next midterm election.  We don‘t even who know they are. 

Citizens United doesn‘t even allow us to know who are the people that are paying for the attack ads?  Why are they paying for it?  Is it the insurance industry?  Is it the petroleum industry? 

We never know that because the Supreme Court judges who made that happen have been lapdogs for corporate America long before—

(CROSSTALK)

SCHULTZ:  So does this qualify Fox as any kind of credible news organization?  And I say that with a laugh, but now that the money‘s involved. 

PAPANTONIO:  It would in most countries, but, you know, if you look at

Fox, it‘s not just this money.  If you think of where all the other parts -

they have a daily voice, they have a daily voice with Glenn Beck and Hannity and O‘Reilly.  Wherever it is, it‘s not just the money. 

Roger Ailes, for example, he knows exactly what Fox has morphed into. 

But at this point they really don‘t care. 

They see a divide in America.  Their angle is to increase that divide as much as they can, to be as divisive as they can.  And they just happen to have the money do it. 

So, what can we do as progressives?  What we have to do, first of all, is understand that we can beat money.  I don‘t care how much money you—

SCHULTZ:  How are you going to beat money?  I mean, you‘re looking at $25 donations by people.  That‘s what the Democratic Party is.  Right now, since that Supreme Court ruling, the corporations are outgunning the unions 26 to 1 financially. 

PAPANTONIO:  Right.  Right. 

Think of Mitt Romney.  I always like to use this example.

Mitt Romney, by the time it was over, had spent something like $3 million for votes to even make it to the primaries.  So what I‘m trying to say is, what you‘re going to do tomorrow, for example, what you‘re going to be doing right here in Washington, D.C., on the plaza, you‘re going to be having the message that gets people to the polls. 

That‘s all it‘s about.  We can overcome money if we show up.  That‘s the only way we can overcome money. 

SCHULTZ:  Mike, good to have you with us. 

PAPANTONIO:  Thanks a lot, Ed.  Appreciate it. 

SCHULTZ:  You do great work, no doubt about it.  Thanks a lot.

Coming up, what is it about food that fills people with “Psycho Talk?”  First “The Beckster” freaked out about to French fry police.  Now a congressman takes the food fight even farther, saying that the government is going to force-feed you veggies.

Well, we‘ll fry him up in the “Zone” next.  Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHULTZ:  And in “Psycho Talk” tonight, Republican Congressman Dr.

Paul Broun of Georgia. 

Well, he puts a fresh twist on the righty campaign to convince us that we are definitely headed for socialism.  Broun is the self-described defender of the Constitution who wants to repeal the 16th and the 17th Amendments.  He‘s also the guy who said clean energy legislation will kill old folks. 

Now he‘s saying the Centers for Disease Control is going to start cracking down on people‘s vegetables intake. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REP. PAUL BROUN ®, GEORGIA:  The Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta say that people in America are not eating enough fruits and vegetables.  And they want to get all of the power of the federal government to force you to eat more fruits and vegetables.  This is what the federal CDC—they‘re going to be calling people and finding out (INAUDIBLE).

This is socialism of the highest order. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHULTZ:  They‘re going to be—the federal government‘s going to be calling people about what they‘re eating? 

The idea that the federal government is going to be keeping tabs on whether 300 million Americans are eating their recommended servings of fruits and vegetables is absolutely ridiculous.  And you‘d think—you‘d think—being a doctor, Mr. Broun would encourage his constituents to eat better anyway.

But Republicans are so used to saying no, they can‘t even admit that a healthy diet might be a good idea.  Saying that the federal government is going to force them to eat their fruits and vegetables is unhealthy “Psycho Talk.”  

Coming up, false prophet Glenn Beck restored a bunch of garbage at his rally.  Tomorrow, people will have a chance to unite as One Nation and stand up for equality, social justice and the American dream. 

NAACP president Ben Jealous speaks out on the One Nation March on “The Battleground” story tonight. 

And it‘s getting so ugly for Meg Whitman, she‘s throwing her own husband under the bus.  Some bad housekeeping going on here, folks. 

All that, plus “The Drugster” has a new dysfunctional family.  Rahm Emanuel gets a dead fish delivered.  Welcome to Chicago.  And “The Daily Show” co-creator headlines “Club Ed” on a Friday night. 

You‘re watching THE ED SHOW on MSNBC from Washington, D.C.  Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHULTZ:  Welcome back to THE ED SHOW.  In the Battleground story tonight, I want to talk about the racial divide in America and how our One Nation march is going to try to bridge the gap tomorrow here in the nation‘s capital.  Tomorrow, we‘re going to be bringing in civil rights activists together in our nation‘s capital to show we are united as a country.  This One Nation march is a multiracial civil and human rights movement.  National unity is something that radical Tea Partiers are trying to destroy and we‘re not going to let it happen.  We‘re just not going to let it happen.  The voices will ring tomorrow here in Washington. 

Let me bring in Ben Jealous, president of the NAACP.  His organization has been on the forefront of this.  Ben, good to have you with us tonight.  

BEN JEALOUS, PRESIDENT, NAACP:  Hi, Ed.  

SCHULTZ:  With the political climate that‘s taken place in this country, how important is it for the progressive movement to set the positive tone going in to the final month before the election?

JEALOUS:  Very.  Right now, you know, folks see this time of rising tension and decreasing prosperity and some people say, well, that‘s the formula for battleground, which—in a bottle.  We say that‘s crying out for us to see common ground.  Let‘s come together.  Let‘s put our shoulders so that we could push in the same direction and increase prosperity in this country.  That‘s what the battle of health care reform is about.  It‘s about saving lives.  It‘s also about stopping families from being forced in the bankruptcy.  That‘s what the fight to create jobs in this country, and the three million created by the stimulus.  The 150,000 teachers‘ jobs we saved last month until the eight million more.  We need our government to be fixated on creating until the job is done.  

SCHULTZ:  Ben, when you take a look at what is happening in this country, how important is it to hear all voices?  I mean, I think that this really could be a defining moment for liberals, progressives in this country and the base that‘s been so much talk about that is really not motivated to get the job done on November 2nd.  What do you think?  

JEALOUS:  This march will be the defining march for jobs in the early 21st century.  We‘re not just look like this country will look like this century.  You‘ll see mine workers environmentalists.  You‘ll see Jews, and Christians and Muslims.  You‘ll see people of all races.  You‘ll see small business, people in union members.  All standing up together, saying, enough is enough, to put away the distractions.  Let‘s move beyond the old lines and divisions.  Let‘s focus on creating jobs.  You know, we should be spending less and less on wars and tax cuts for the richest one percent.  More and more on jobs and schools and, you know, for the other 99 percent and so that‘s what this march is about.  

SCHULTZ:  You know, you take a look at what the Republicans have done in just the most recent days, they blocked some more help for the 99ers.  They stood fast against the small business bill that was out there to help Americans, the outsourcing bill that was put on the table.  I mean it would seem to me when people get the information, when you know, people who have fallen on hard times in this economy, get the information, get the straight-talk, it should be easy to motivate them, or do you think, it‘s going to be tough for them what we‘re saying?

JEALOUS:  Look, this is going to be a tough time to get folks off the couch.  Folks are, you know, a bit depressed, they‘re angry.  You know, frankly, conservatives in both parents have become major obstructions in the U.S. Senate to getting stuff done, and the reality is that what we hope to start tomorrow—you know, marchers are not the end of anything, they‘re the beginning of something.  What we hope to begin tomorrow is a call for people to get off the sidelines, get off the bleachers, get off the couch, and get back engaged.  We have come too far to be turned back now.  We‘ve passed health care reform.  We‘ve narrowly the divide between crack and—and it has been a huge social justices in this county for a long time.  We‘ve put millions of people back to work but we have millions of more jobs to be created.  And, you know, from whatever party, people who come into Congress, and have to fixated on creating jobs, or making sure all our kids go to great schools, they need to be unnoticed.  The one that show up at the end of this Congress.  The beginning of the next Congress.  They‘ll see 400 organizations working together.  They‘ll see hundreds of thousands of activists working together of all races, of all nationalities, saying, don‘t forget about the 99 percent.  

SCHULTZ:  Ben Jealous, NAACP.  I‘m honored to be a part of it tomorrow.  I appreciate the opportunity.  And great to have you with us tonight and great work organize in this.  Your people are great. 

JEALOUS:  Thanks, Ed and we look forward to what you have to say tomorrow.  Thank you.  

SCHULTZ:  You bet.  Thank you.

Now, let get some rapid fire response from our panel on these stories tonight. 

Billionaire Meg Whitman is scrambling after a letter services apparently proving that she knowingly, knowingly employed an undocumented worker and lied about it.  How republican.  Now she‘s letting her husband take the fall on the whole thing.  

New York gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino defends his own camera‘s smack down with the “New York Post” reporter.  And he continues the mudslinging in by hinting that he can prove his opponent Andrew Cuomo had extramarital affairs.  

And Rahm Emanuel is officially done as President Obama‘s chief of staff.  After an emotional White House good bye, he‘s off to Chicago to run for mayor.

With us tonight Karen Hunter, journalist and publisher and also with us tonight is Heidi Harris, radio talk show host out of Las Vegas. 

All right.  Let‘s talk about Meg Whitman first.  This is topic A, exhibit A, Heidi for hypocrisy.  This candidate has been out taking a tough stance on illegal immigration lo and behold for nine years.  She‘s had an undocumented worker right in her own house.  How does she get out of this one?

HEIDI HARRIS, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST:  Well, Meg Whitman claims she got Nicky from an agency and she believed her documents were in order.  She employed her for nine years, she says that when it came to her attention that Nicky was undocumented that she did the hardest thing she ever did and firing her after working for her for nine years.  If she didn‘t care about documentation, she probably wouldn‘t have had an enormous string of people coming through her house.  Obviously, she felt Nicky was legally in the country.  And what‘s interesting, nobody is talking about this, Gloria Allred has supposed to be representing Nicky, yet she‘s presenting documents that proves that her client in violation of the law?  How is that representing a client correctly?

KAREN HUNTER, JOURNALIST:  Wow, Heidi.

SCHULTZ:  Karen, what do you think?

HUNTER:  I‘m just amazed that Heidi is actually, I don‘t thinks she believes what she‘s saying.  But, you know, it‘s the timing of her firing Nicky Diaz is also very interesting.  How do you work for somebody for nine years and not know them?  That close the proximity in the house she work for Meg Whitman, this is the greatest gift Jerry Brown could have ever received, and as a result no amount of money in the world is going to be able to buy this away.  And she‘s got to be really careful about what she says, because the Hispanic vote is listening and they‘re watching what Meg Whitman is going to do next.  

HARRIS:  I don‘t know what the guys do with the Hispanic vote.  A lot of Latino listeners in my show don‘t want people breaking the rules.  They don‘t want people here illegally.  

HUNTER:  Yes, but they don‘t want hypocrites to talk about the whole situation, the way Meg Whitman is coming out now, trying to pass the buck to her husband.  Just owned up to it.  You know, you did it nine year, someone is working with you, you know their lives.  Unless she doesn‘t and there‘s has more about her, if she didn‘t know Nicky Diaz over nine year period, I think that would say a whole lot more about Meg Whitman than not knowing that she was undocumented. 

HARRIS:  You know, my guess is Meg Whitman made $100,000 a week making all the money she did for eBay and probably didn‘t know a lot of people very well.  Give me a break.  

HUNTER:  Exactly.  Well give us a break in another way, Heidi.  

SCHULTZ:  Well, it just seems to me that you know who‘s working in your house.  

HUNTER:  Exactly.  

SCHULTZ:  But the lawsuit also contends that she worked hours and didn‘t get paid for them.  I mean you got a billionaire republican out there who‘s too cheap to help out the worker.  

HARRIS:  Oh, come on.  

SCHULTZ:  That‘s how you keep your money, Ed.  You know, that‘s how they keep their money.  

HARRIS:  Who is making $23 an hour doing that kind of thing?  And let‘s go back to the thing about her knowing Nicky.

HUNTER:  That kind of thing.  

HARRIS:  Of course, she know her but when you‘re from another country, I don‘t know if you‘re from Russia, or Mexico or anywhere else whether or not you‘re here.  I may know where you‘re from originally, Scotland, whatever, but I don‘t necessarily ask, are you legal?  

(CROSSTALK)

HUNTER:  Oh my goodness.  Heidi, this is a woman that outsourced 40 percent of her labor to India.  You know, that‘s an issue that has been a very hot button issue for the Republican Party and she‘s running for office.  You can‘t possibly sit here and tell me that she had no idea and it was her husband and he signed the parent work and I‘m not sure who—give me a break, Meg Whitman knew for eight years and she fired her in the ninth year because she‘s running for office.  That is hypocrisy and it‘s going to come to bite her in the behind.  

HARRIS:  Well, jobs overseas because no one can afford to pay union wages for the same jobs here in America, that‘s the union‘s fault. 

SCHULTZ:  All right.  Let‘s go to this crazy New York race for governor.  Mr. Paladino defending, telling a “New York Post” reporter that he‘s going to take him out.  Here it is. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CARL PALADINO ®, NEW YORK GUBERNATORIAL NOMINEE:  They were taking pictures in the window.  They were taking pictures of their mail.  Anybody that puts my daughter in danger is—obviously I‘m going to be responsive to them. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHULTZ:  Karen Hunter, you know, there‘s going to be a lot of people in this country that are going, I think side with Paladino, I mean he said a lot of goofy stuff but do candidates deserve having reporters coming  around almost stalking 10-year-old kids.  What do you think?

HUNTER:  I mean, Ed, this is going too far.  And I think, you know, are we electing people to run or government or do we want to know what‘s in their garbage, in their underwear drawer in their homes?  I mean, I think, we are really crossing the line here.  And I think, you‘re absolutely right, I heard a Paladino on a radio interview on my way in, and you know, it is outrageous that we camp out in the media and look for pictures of kids and we see this all in areas from celebrity and now, you know, no one‘s off-limits.  If you‘re running for office, this is part of the program but it shouldn‘t be.  And somebody needs to put their foot down in the media and say no more, no more.  

SCHULTZ:  Heidi, take them out in New York, might have a certain definition.  What does take them out mean in Las Vegas?

HARRIS:  Well, you know, we‘re running out of room to bury the bodies out here, Ed.  Because, you know, I have to tell you a funny story.  We talked about that on my radio show one time.  And I said, what happens if the construction workers come across a skeleton and I had them calling in the show and say, you know what, we don‘t tell anybody, we just throw them in the dumpster. 

(LAUGHTER)

SCHULTZ:  All right.  Here is Mike Huckabee, he says the “New York Post” reporter went too far.  Here it is.  

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MIKE HUCKABEE, FOX NEWS ANCHOR:  And this reporter stepped way over the line.  No matter what Carl Paladino said to him that may have seemingly provoked him, it was his professional duty to remain detached and to remain objective. 

SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR:  Let me ask you.

HUCKABEE:  He failed to do that.  When he raises his voice and begins to actually get confrontational and provoke and then that‘s no longer a journalistic interview and that‘s what we had here.  It got way out of hand and I think the reporter was unprofessional in the way that he handled it.  

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHULTZ:  Well, Mike, your boss apparently allowed it to happen because I think that you work for the same guy, Mr. Huckabee.  This is Paladino hinting that he has proof that his opponent Mr. Cuomo has cheated on his wife.  Here it is.  

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PALADINO:  We will at the appropriate time, OK, say whatever we have in our box at the appropriate time.  Yes. 

MEGYN KELLY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR:  So you‘re not backing off that allegation.  It is—you do believe that Andrew Cuomo has had or did have extramarital affairs when he was married?

PALADINO:  What I believe and what is factual out there we will at the appropriate time put out, yes. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHULTZ:  Karen Hunter, do New Yorkers care about this?

HUNTER:  Unfortunately, they might but this is where Paladino I think made a mistake and I think he made a critical error.  He would have had us on his side, you know with the daughter, but now you‘re turning around and doing the very same thing that you‘re accusing the media of doing.  You know, you‘re throwing the man Andrew Cuomo and this should be about the issues, right?  If you have a strong platform, how about running on that?  I‘m sick and tired in hearing about what people are doing in their bedrooms, I want to know how you are going to fix the economy, I want to know how you are going to fix our school system, I want to know how you are going to make this country greater.  I don‘t really care who is cheating on their wife right now.  So, I think he undermined himself by doing that.  

SCHULTZ:  Well, Heidi, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas but in New York, what happens in New York, everybody is going to know about it apparently.  

HARRIS:  Yes.  No question.  No question about that.  You know, New Yorkers really care, I mean, they yawn anymore, sits there, you know, Cuomo, Paladino, Paladino has admitted he cheated.  I will agree with both of you that you leave the kids out of it.  You do not chase a 10-year-old child around.  But, is adultery an issue?  I guess you have to let the voters decide that.  I think, its fix the character, some voters only care about their wallet and they don‘t really care for person screwing around, as long as, you know, whatever, so it depends on what the voters think.  

HUNTER:  Well, the current governor, you know, admitted to having an affair and smoking cocaine. 

HARRIS:  Right.

HUNTER:  I mean, at the end of the day, can you fix our country, can you?  Really?

HARRIS:  Well, not if you‘re business screwing around, maybe.  That could help. 

HUNTER:  It didn‘t hurt Clinton. 

(LAUGHTER)

SCHULTZ:  Karen Hunter, Heidi Harris, great to have with us on this Friday.  I appreciate your time.

HUNTER:  Thank you, Ed.  Have a good weekend.

SCHULTZ:  Coming up, Tea Party queen Christine O‘Donnell is getting a background check and running from the spotlight.  I think it‘s time for her to start talking, don‘t you?  And after getting fired from ESPN for a racist comment, the drugster says, he‘s getting back on TV.  Well, sort of, I‘ll explain that all in the Playbook, stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHULTZ:  And it‘s not too late to let us know what you think.  Tonight‘s text survey question is, should any group or anyone be excluded from tomorrow‘s One Nation march on Washington?  Text A for yes, text B for no to 622-639, we‘ve got the results coming up.  Stay with us.                     

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHULTZ:  And in my Playbook tonight, well I guess that you could say that the evidence is mounting against Tea Party nut job Christine O‘Donnell.  What story is it now?  Well, earlier this week, we told how her bogus LinkedIn profile, she tried to, well, make herself look way smarter than she actually is.  By claiming she went to Oxford and Claremont Graduate University.  Both universities denied the claim and she blamed it on others.  But she did receive a fellowship from Claremont Institute.  A conservative think tank with no affiliation to the university.  The story gets better.  Today, Claremont Institute official is claiming that she lied to them on her application. 

The spokesperson told Talking Points Memo that she has said, she received a certificate from Oxford University in the summer of 2001.  And yesterday another website, yet another website, called ZoomInfo surfaced with O‘Donnell making the same exact mistake.  How unusual.  Well, that‘s three strikes for Christine and the teenage witch.  Her plan is to stay way from the national interviews but I think she really needs to step up and speak up if she‘s going to have any credibility at all. 

For more, let‘s bring in media strategist, let me turn to legendary radio talk show consultant Holland Cooke.  Well, there‘s plenty of writing talkers out there.  Shouldn‘t she get out there and clean this thing out?

HOLLAND COOKE, TALK RADIO CONSULTANT:  This is a genuine dilemma for her because she went on FOX News and with great flourished announced this will be my last national TV appearance.  And that, she was just going to apply shoe leather and do that Elaine Benes dance all around Delaware.  Here‘s the problem, Delawareans are consuming national media.  She‘s getting the horse lap in national media so she can‘t contain the story by staying home in Delaware.  

SCHULTZ:  What‘s her best play, fess up to it and move on?  

COOKE:  I don‘t know that that‘s in her DNA and this has been a rough week for her, on Wednesday, Congressman Mike Castle says, he‘s not going to do the write-in.  And we saw some Rasmussen numbers that said, if she did, she would be mathematically advantaged.  So, now she‘s back to where she started out.  Rolling the ball up the hill against Chris Coons, and the wrong party said, she didn‘t have a chance to that.  And then the second shoe that dropped was this resume inflation thing.  Blumenthal is now.

(LAUGHTER)

SCHULTZ:  Resume inflation, I love it.  

COOKE:  She‘s Blumenthaled and this is an equal opportunity faux pas, because this Blumenthal in Connecticut are damn who fibbed about serving in Vietnam.  The Internet is to Christine O‘Donnell what videotape is to Sharron Angle.  It‘s the lie detector.  Angle says something wild, then denies saying it, then they play her the tape.  What is she going to say, that‘s not me?  Christine O‘Donnell had to verify one of those online profiles herself and now she‘s saying, oh no, that‘s not me.  

SCHULTZ:  In a round about way, doesn‘t this serve up an opportunity for the Tea Partiers to throw her under the bus and say, we‘re above this?  I mean, doesn‘t it give the Republicans a chance to say, all right, we‘re not going to win this seat.  This isn‘t look good right now.  But we can‘t phony up with it. 

COOKE:  Logically yes, but it may be too late in the game and until now, she could skate because she hasn‘t had a real job since 2004.  She‘s defaulted in her mortgage, but she spun that as relatable, who in America now isn‘t jobless and having trouble with the mortgage?

SCHULTZ:  Sure.  

COOKE:  She crossed a line when she lied about her resume.  

SCHULTZ:  The sex thing, how is that playing out on talk radio?

COOKE:  Oh, please. 

(CROSSTALK)

SCHULTZ:  She‘s got some goofy ideas. 

COOKE:  Yes, she does, she‘s a mommy grizzly.  

SCHULTZ:  So, the question is, how did she get this far?

COOKE:  By 30, 540 votes.  This is the year when reasonable Republicans were in an endangered species and Mike Castle probably amped it up too late.

SCHULTZ:  Holland Cooke, always a pleasure.  Good to have you with us. 

COOKE:  You bet.

SCHULTZ:  Couple of pages in my Playbook tonight.  White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said good-bye to his staff in the White House this morning and he got quite the going-away gift, a dead fish.  The fish of course was a joke.  There‘s a rumor that Emanuel once sent a dead fish to a pollster who he didn‘t like. 

And finally, after getting fired from ESPN for racist comments, the drugster, Rush Limbaugh is getting back on TV.  This time, he‘s in a role I can see, a cartoon character.  He‘s playing himself on “The Family Guy,” apparently one of the liberal characters on the show is going to tell him off but of course the arrogant drugster said, he comes off like a champ or is that chump on this  show. 

(LAUGHTER)

Up next, I‘m going to get to the bottom of the Christine O‘Donnell‘s academic background and there‘s no better source than professor.  Lizz Winstead, she‘s got the pop quiz for American X.  And it involves mice and human brains, in Club Ed, next.  Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SCHULTZ:  Welcome back to THE ED SHOW.  If it‘s Friday, it‘s time for Club Ed with “Daily Show” co-creator Lizz Winstead.  You can follow her at Lizzwinstead.com.  Lizz, great to have you with us again tonight. 

I have got to go back to psycho talk and Dr. Paul Brown, he‘s telling this group of seniors, now let‘s look at this, he‘s holding a town hall meeting and he‘s telling this group of seniors that the government is going to be calling them, seeing if they‘re eating their fruits and vegetables.  Scaring seniors.  Calling them to see if they‘re, you know, doing their fiber check on the seniors, I guess.  I don‘t know.  This is crazy what the Republicans are doing.  Your thoughts?

LIZZ WINSTEAD, “DAILY SHOW” CO-CREATOR:  Well, I mean, when Republicans think that eating healthy is some kind of like socialist plot, you know, we‘re in trouble.  Because what they would rather have Americans doing is just wandering through Costco, eating food from those people who hand out samples and hazmat suits, you know, because that‘s the way Americans eat, they go snacking at Costco, eating Jalapeno cheddar or poppers or some made-up food and then they just amble through  life.  I mean, it‘s terrible.  The one that we can all agree on is that yes, indeed, Americans have a problem with obesity and weight and we have to moderate our diet.  It‘s insane. 

SCHULTZ:  All right.  The gubernatorial race in New York.  Paladino says, he‘s going to take that guy out.  In New York, what does that mean?

WINSTEAD:  You know, he runs his campaign—I think his campaign manager is like Bobby the Bully from PS Six.  The fifth grader.  I mean, between sending scratch and sniff garbage mailers.  And then, portraying Andrew Cuomo covered in feces in a mailer, it‘s like who is running this—

I mean, really is Tom Green in charge of this guy‘s career?  It‘s pathetic.  

SCHULTZ:  And Christine O‘Donnell, I suppose now we‘re going to find out that she went to the University of Minnesota or something.  I don‘t know.  What do you make of this?

WINSTEAD:  Well you know, the fact that she says that evolution is a myth, turns out her education is also a myth.  I think the next thing we‘re going to find out is that, she was the only person ever living that has been home schooled for college.  Or we‘ll find out she‘s just been masturbating all of the time and doing nothing else. 

SCHULTZ:  Lizz Winstead.  Lizz Winstead is going to be performing at Lannie‘s Cabaret in Denver, on Friday, October 15th.  Lizz, great to have you with us tonight.

WINSTEAD:  Thanks, Ed.

SCHULTZ:  Thanks so much.  

Tonight in our telephone text survey I asked you, should any group or any one be excluded from tomorrow‘s One Nation march on Washington?  Ten percent of you said yes, 90 percent of you said no.  Before I go tonight, I want to take just a moment one more time to tell you that the mission of the One Nation march, you can see it on my website at wegoted.com.  It‘s the mission statement.  It has all the logistics for you right there.  There is going to be more than 300,000 people there tomorrow and we are pretty excited about it.  I‘ll be a featured speaker there as there will be many on stage.  For more information on the march, you can go to wegoted.com. 

That‘s THE ED SHOW.  I‘m Ed Schultz.  “HARDBALL” with Chris Matthews starts right now.  Have a great weekend.  We‘ll see you back here on Monday on THE ED SHOW.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

END   

Copyright 2010 CQ-Roll Call, Inc.  All materials herein are protected by

United States copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed,

transmitted, displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written

permission of CQ-Roll Call. You may not alter or remove any trademark,

copyright or other notice from copies of the content.>

PASTE THE TRANSCRIPT HERE