Image: Christine O'Donnell on Oct. 14
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Delaware Republican Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell answers a question during a Rotary Club debate against opponent Democratic Chris Coons in Wilmington, Del. on Oct. 14.
updated 10/19/2010 10:32:53 AM ET 2010-10-19T14:32:53

Republican Christine O'Donnell challenged her Democratic rival Tuesday to show where the Constitution requires separation of church and state, drawing swift criticism from her opponent, laughter from her law school audience and a quick defense from prominent conservatives.

"Where in the Constitution is separation of church and state?" O'Donnell asked while Democrat Chris Coons, an attorney, sat a few feet away.

Coons responded that O'Donnell's question "reveals her fundamental misunderstanding of what our Constitution is. ... The First Amendment establishes a separation."

She interrupted to say, "The First Amendment does? ... So you're telling me that the separation of church and state, the phrase 'separation of church and state,' is in the First Amendment?"

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Her campaign issued a statement later saying O'Donnell "was not questioning the concept of separation of church and state as subsequently established by the courts. She simply made the point that the phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution."

Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh made the same point in his radio program soon after the debate, saying, "There's nothing in the Constitution about separation of church and state."

The controversy was the latest to befall O'Donnell in a race where she trails badly in the polls against Coons.

Coons is a county executive nominated by the Democrats for the seat held for years by Vice President Joe Biden. O'Donnell, with strong Tea Party support, burst into the national spotlight by winning the Republican primary over a longtime GOP congressman.

The subject of religion and the law came up during their debate at Widener University Law School as O'Donnell criticized Coons for saying that teaching creationism in public school would violate the Constitution.

Coons said private and parochial schools are free to teach creationism — O'Donnell used the term "intelligent design" — but that under the "indispensable principle" of separation of church and state "religious doctrine doesn't belong in our public schools."

He said the separation of church and state was one of a number of "settled pieces of constitutional law" worked out through years of legal development including Supreme Court decisions. He said a woman's right to abortion was another.

He noted again the First Amendment's ban on establishment of religion.

"That's in the First Amendment?" she said, smiling.

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Both candidates suggested that the exchange showed the other didn't understand the Constitution.

Origin of 'separation of church and state'
The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The phrase "separation of church and state" is usually traced to President Thomas Jefferson. In a letter in 1802, he referred to the First Amendment and said that it built "a wall of separation between Church & State."

The relationship of government and religion continues to be debated in American law. Many argue that the First Amendment's reference to religion involves the establishment of any particular religion, an important concern to the American colonists, not a ban on all involvement between religion and government.

O'Donnell's comments, in a debate aired on radio station WDEL, created a stir in the audience.

"You actually audibly heard the crowd gasp," Widener University political scientist Wesley Leckrone said after the debate.

Erin Daly, a Widener professor who specializes in constitutional law, said, "She seemed genuinely surprised that the principle of separation of church and state derives from the First Amendment, and I think to many of us in the law school that was a surprise."

During the debate, O'Donnell argued that Coons' views on teaching of theories other evolution showed that he believes in big-government mandates.

"Talk about imposing your beliefs on the local schools," she said. "You've just proved how little you know not just about constitutional law but about the theory of evolution."

Coons said evolution was science, creationism a religious doctrine.

O'Donnell upset Delaware's Republican establishment last month with her victory in the primary, and former George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove has predicted she will cost the party a Senate seat.

Money has been pouring into her campaign from across the country — she raised nearly $4 million in just over a month through the end of September — but she has recently criticized the Republican establishment for not spending more to help.

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    >>> we can't make this stuff up. last week christine o'donnell said she'd have to check on some supreme court cases she disagreed on, now it seems she has to just simply check on the constitution. listen to this.

    >> where in the constitution is separation of church and state ?

    >> an excellent point.

    >> hold on, hold on, please.

    >> i actually, michelle , let me introduce michelle bernard, president and ceo of the independent women forum and major hillary clinton supporter, and howard wolfston former senior aide for hillary clinton . i literally had to find out from our producer on the scene if she was kidding. i thought she had to be kidding. you know, handy dandy pocket, maybe i could send this, the constitution. congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise there of or abridging the freedom of speech amendment, number one. i don't even know where to go with that. did you think it was a joke, howard ?

    >> i think if was a joke, whether she meant it as a joke, i don't know. she is a saturday night live satire of herself. last night in new york we saw seven candidates on the debating for governor and people who were subsecure and people who weren't running in any serious way. this debases america's faith.

    >> if we have that set of clips from the new york governor's debate i want to bring it into this discussion, if we can. it will take a minute to find them. michelle y sat and watch that governor's debate for an hour and a half and then i hear about this comment and, actually, i'm not finding any of this stuff funny any more. it kind of made me sick to my stomach because i feel like somehow we have got to find people who know a little more, can do a little more, something. this is such a serious time in our nation's history. how did we get to this point?

    >> i don't know how we got to this point. christine o'donnell has had a lot of moments that just were not stellar moments. the american public is bleeding and whether we're looking at independents, democrats or republicans, you know that most of the american public is looking at these clips, watching television, listening to these candidates on the radio and saying is there truly anyone out there that understands the suffering we're going through? unemployment is, you know, through the roof. the foreclosure crisis that we're seeing all throughout the countries, banks deciding that they're going to start foreclosing on people's homes again and then you have candidates who profess this love of the constitution, but that don't understand the constitution or seemingly haven't read it. people have to be saying, would i been better off moving to a different country? it's very sad. we need some politicians who need to know what they're doing.

    >> christine o'donnell claims she did work on its website it displays a picture of the constitution. howard , since you brought it up, i do want to play that set of


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