The Ed Show for Tuesday, Oct. 26th, 2010
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Guests: Justin Ruben, Jonathan Alter, Debbie Stabenow, Scott Paul, Todd
Webster, John Feehery, Mackenzie Warren, Stephanie Miller
ED SCHULTZ, HOST: Good evening, Americans, and welcome to THE ED SHOW tonight from New York.
These stories are hitting “My Hot Buttons” at this hour.
I can hardly believe the story I‘m about to tell you here on THE ED SHOW tonight. Unbelievable.
A Rand Paul supporter last night stomped on the head of a liberal protester in Kentucky. The tape is infuriating.
Batten down the hatches, folks. Commentary is on the way with reaction.
Republican John Boehner‘s phony concern over jobs got a lot of folks in this country sick, including me.
Hey, Tan Man, you keep asking, where are the jobs? Well, I‘ll show you where the jobs are. They‘re overseas.
Senator Debbie Stabenow blasts off in “The Battleground” story on that tonight.
And here‘s a dandy for you. Michele Bachmann thinks Glenn Beck‘s chalkboard is where the country and the Congress learns the truth.
Oh, yes. We‘re schooling them in “The Zone” tonight
This is the story that has me fired up tonight, and it should get the attention of every American.
Now, just before the senatorial debate last night in Kentucky, a campaign worker for Rand Paul assaulted a woman by kicking her in the head after she was taken down to the ground by another man, kind of like a gang fight. Welcome to the season of 2010, the election season.
Here is the shocking videotape. You won‘t believe it.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get the police out here!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get the cops!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get the police. Get the police. Get the police.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, no, no, no. Come on.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHULTZ: The videotape speaks for itself, doesn‘t it? But let‘s take another look at it just to make sure we see what we see here.
Rand Paul, he gets out of the vehicle. He gets out of the vehicle, and when he is getting out of the vehicle, he is about 10 to 15 yards away from this.
Here he is. OK. The crowd‘s a little boisterous. Hey, it is a big debate coming up.
Now, can we back up the videotape? Did I see a security officer there? I want to see this again.
See, you see something new every time you see this videotape. There‘s a security officer, a uniformed police officer right there! Right there! See that?
I mean, I find this freakin‘ unbelievable, that you have got a law enforcement official allowing this to go down. What‘s happening here in this country?
Now, this guy that did this right here, what do you think? Are his taxes going to go down? Is he afraid that we‘re going to get invaded?
What did she do? What did she do to deserve that?
Well, let‘s see, I guess she had on the wrong T-shirt. Oh, she must have been carrying the wrong sign.
Paul‘s campaign, believe it or not, put out two statements today. Not one, put out two. How often do you hear that?
Well, here is the first dandy. “We understand”—stop it right there. “We understand.”
You mean, you didn‘t know what happened? Somebody had to tell you?
“We understand there was an altercation outside the debate between supporters of both sides, and that is incredibly unfortunate. Violence of any kind has no place in our civil discourse, and we urge supporters on all sides”—hold it right there. What do you mean all sides? I haven‘t seen any liberal violence.
Anyway, “on all sides to be civil to one another as tensions rise heading towards this very important election.” “We are relieved”—oh, they are relieved “to hear that the woman in question was not injured.”
All sides—both sides. Both sides. Sure, let‘s throw it over on the left, too.
You know, the left, they‘ve got a real problem with this, tool They‘ve been beating the hell out of people all over America. They have been kicking women, they have been carrying guns to rallies. They have been doing all of this stuff.
I find it absolutely amazing that they unapologetically say what they say in their first statement. But after the public outcry, and after the Web traffic that has taken place in this country, well, what do you say we try statement number two?
“The Paul for Senate campaign is extremely disappointed and condemns the actions of a supporter last night outside the Kentucky debate. Whatever the perceived provocation, any level of aggression or violence is deplorable and will not be tolerated by our campaign. The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident and once again urges all activists, on both sides”—there is that both sides thing again—“to remember that their political passions should never manifest themselves in physical altercations of any kind.”
Hold it right there.
Rand Paul, don‘t hide behind your campaign. You have to step out and talk to the American people about this.
You personally have to condemn this, not your campaign. Don‘t hide behind some spokesperson. Don‘t hide behind anybody else. Don‘t blame anybody else.
You are responsible for this in many respects. But now that it‘s happened, you can‘t come out and condemn it? You put out two lame statements?
This is who they are. This is who they are.
Now let‘s get to the victim, Lauren Valle. Well, she is a 23-year-old woman who was assaulted. She was taken to the hospital with a concussion.
Valle is a member of—oh, gosh, let‘s condemn her for this—
MoveOn.org. She was carrying a RepubliCorp sign trying to get a picture
with Rand Paul when his goons tackled her to the ground—you saw the tape
and stomped her on the head.
The man who assaulted Valle is Rand Paul Bourbon County campaign coordinator Tim Profitt. He told The Associated Press this: “I‘m sorry that it came to that and I apologize if it appeared overly forceful. But I was concerned about Rand‘s safety.”
He was concerned about the candidate‘s safety. Did you get that, folks? I find that unbelievable. I almost can‘t speak right now.
The country should be outraged out this. The country should be outraged at this. I find it absolutely amazing, and we could go back to the tape here. I find it absolutely amazing.
Mr. Profitt, were you so concerned that you had to stomp on the head of a defenseless woman when she was pinned to the ground?
That guy is nothing but a thug. And it takes two statements from the campaign, not Rand Paul himself.
Mr. Paul, why don‘t you call a press conference within the next hour
and say personally, you want to make it very clear to the people of
Kentucky that you personally don‘t condone this? Because, you see, there
is this thing that you were, well, kind of involved with in college, that -
you wanted that woman in that fraternity to kind of be submissive.
Remember that story? Slow to the punch again, huh, Mr. Tea Partier?
Well, the cops aren‘t. Lexington, Kentucky, police spokesperson Sherelle Roberts (ph) has announced that officers will deliver a summons to Profitt.
Paul‘s campaign cut ties with Profitt late this afternoon. That‘s a news flash—they cut ties with him.
The Tea Party candidates and their supporters have been acting like thugs from the start of this campaign season. The closer we get to Election Day, things are really getting out of control, aren‘t they? Well, let‘s go to the ledger.
Last month, a Sharron Angle supporter punched a female Harry Reid supporter in the face. Bingo.
And just 10 days later, well, here we have Joe Miller‘s goons handcuffing a reporter and detained him against his will for 25 minutes. See a pattern here, folks?
Four days later, a Tea Party candidate down in Texas was asked if a violent overthrow of the government should be on the table.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The option is on the table. I don‘t think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms.
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SCHULTZ: No Tea Party candidate has the character to put a stop to this crap. Tea Partiers think that, you see, they are the real Americans, and they treat members of the media and, of course, MoveOn.org, like road kill. We‘re kind of second-class citizens, I guess.
Glenn Beck has been screaming about violence.
Well, how do you feel now, big guy? Aren‘t you proud of this one?
And he has been screaming about violence, saying, well, it‘s going to be coming from the left. Show me the tape. You don‘t have any.
What do you think Beck would be saying if this was a Democrat who stomped on the head of a female member of the Tea Party? Or wait a minute, let‘s hold it. What if it was an Obama supporter who happened to be a minority who stomped on the head of a Tea Party person? What would they be saying across the street tonight?
America, don‘t buy this crap, this both sides garbage anymore. It‘s not both sides.
It‘s coming from the right wing. It is endorsed by the Republican Party. And the Tea Party is nonstop.
They are Republicans at heart, and they‘re upset that we have a black president. They are upset that people won‘t back down.
People in this country will not back down. They can‘t talk us down when it comes to, oh, this enthusiasm gap, and the polls are saying this and the polls are saying that.
I‘m going to say this again. This is how they operate.
And I challenge Senator Gregg (ph) to come on THE ED SHOW and repeat what you said on “Dayside” on MSNBC just the other day when you said that this health care bill is going to cost American taxpayers billions of dollars.
Wrong. It‘s going to save a trillion dollars over the next 20 years.
But, you see, that‘s how they put the boot on the neck of the taxpayers and the viewers in this country. They kind of do it with sound bites from Washington, and then they kind of let these supporters go out and really do it to the women who have the wrong T-shirt on, or carry the wrong sign, or say the wrong thing.
Tell me what you think in our telephone survey tonight. The number to dial is 1-877-ED-MSNBC.
My question tonight is: Do you think Rand Paul himself should publicly denounce the violence of his supporters? Press 1 for yes, press 2 for no, and I‘ll bring you the results later on in the program.
Now, the reason why we‘re asking that question tonight is because candidates are kind of like leaders. They can influence voters. They can influence people.
Just like a candidate goes out and gives a speech, and he talks about hope and change, and strikes the passion of people to do the American thing and go vote, and then there‘s a record turnout and just all demographics, and then we set the table for change, that‘s one way. But then again, there is another way, too, is if someone were to stay silent after something bad really happens.
Rand Paul, you hiding behind your campaign tonight, you‘re nothing but a damn coward. I don‘t think you have the guts to personally come out and say to the American people that you personally condemn it. You hide behind your spokespeople is what you do.
And Ron Paul, congressman from Texas, that‘s your kid. Please don‘t tell me the apple doesn‘t fall very far from the tree.
Congressman Paul, I think you ought to call your kid tonight and tell him he‘s running a rotten campaign. And it sure looks like this problem with women that he had years ago is resurfacing again in the form of his supporters.
Congressman Paul, do you have the guts to call your kid and then tell the media that you did call Rand and told him to back off, or maybe tell him to have a press conference?
You see, if I don‘t speak up now with a tremendous amount of fervor, if the media doesn‘t speak up with a tremendous amount of passion like this, hell, it‘s going to happen again and again and again.
Now, what I wanted to do tonight, but, you know, we have our limitations, and maybe you can go to my Web site at WeGotEd.com and tell me what you think of this. But we really could have taken some video from the 1930s in Germany and we could have matched it up with that video that we just played a few minutes ago, and then we could have let you comment on it, but you can use your imagination about what that would look like.
This is a very important election. Very important.
Joining me now Justin Ruben. He is the executive director of MoveOn.org.
Just a couple of things I want to clarify with you, Justin.
JUSTIN RUBEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MOVEON.ORG: Sure.
SCHULTZ: Was there an organized protest by MoveOn.org at this debate last night in Kentucky?
RUBEN: Yes. Well, Lauren was part of a group that we call RepubliCorp. That is our name for this alliance between these shadowy corporate front groups that are spending millions to buy the election in Kentucky and around the country, and the Republican candidates that they are supporting.
RUBEN: And so she was out there actually giving—she was there to give a satirical award to Rand Paul, the Employee of the Month Award, thanking him for his service to the corporate interests that are spending on this election. That‘s what she was doing, peaceful protests protected by our Constitution.
SCHULTZ: And this isn‘t the first time that you folks have done this, right?
RUBEN: No. We have volunteers around the country who have done over 100 of these RepubliCorp mock protests and awards ceremonies.
SCHULTZ: Anybody been beaten up before on one of these deals, or is this kind of a new thing tonight—last night?
RUBEN: Well, I mean, at other MoveOn events in the last year, we have had protesters punched. I think you are dead on that this is part of a pattern of acts of violence and intimidation by Tea Partiers and right-wingers, and it‘s being encouraged by Tea Party leaders like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, who are consistently using violent imagery, and by the candidates.
SCHULTZ: Yes. Has MoveOn.org done anything violent? Have you guys punched anybody or taken a nightstick to anybody? Have you done anything, or is it all peaceful?
RUBEN: You know, our five million members, the teachers and plumbers, you know, they pretty much go out there and hold signs peacefully and speak their minds. This is absolutely un-American. This is not what our democracy is about.
SCHULTZ: All right.
Lauren Valle, she had a statement today, and I just want to read this before we go.
“They surrounded me. There was five of them. They motioned to each other and got behind me.”
“My partner Alex heard them say, ‘We are here to do crowd control. We
might have to take someone out.‘”
RUBEN: Yes, it really is unbelievable. And the worst thing is that these same corporations that she was there to draw attention to are actually funding the Tea Party groups that are helping to create the environment in which this kind of intimidation and violence has happened.
SCHULTZ: Justin Ruben, good to have you with us tonight. Thanks so much.
RUBEN: Thank you very much for speaking out on this.
SCHULTZ: You bet.
Coming up, Sharron Angle takes running from reporters to a new level. Now she‘s faking the press out with decoys and schemes. A reporter who is chasing the “Psycho Talker” will join me later on in the program.
SCHULTZ: Welcome back to THE ED SHOW, and thanks for watching tonight.
President Obama is changing the game this election cycle. He is firing up the base across the country, and it‘s all looking pretty positive, I think.
Check out these numbers from the latest “Newsweek” poll -- 48 percent of likely voters say that they will be voting for Democrats, while 45 percent plan to vote Republican.
And his own approval rating is starting to move up, at 54 percent. That‘s up six points from late September. I think Republicans are in for a rude awakening. Democrats are off to a strong start in early voting and outpacing Republicans in key states.
For more on that, let‘s go to Jonathan Alter, national affairs columnist for “Newsweek.” He‘s also an MSNBC political analyst.
JONATHAN ALTER, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: Hi, Ed.
SCHULTZ: -- what do you make of these numbers? The president obviously is having an effect by going around the country. What do you think?
ALTER: He is having an effect. And the base is rallying, and early voting is looking much more positive for Democrats than people expected.
But even though I‘m from “Newsweek,” I think we need to take any single poll and approach it with some caution. We‘ll see whether some of the other polls that come out in the next few days match that. And if you can get what they call polling averages that are showing this, showing him up over 50 percent, showing a preference for Democrats over Republican in the congressional races, then we can conclude that there is a last-minute surge for the Democrats, but it‘s a little premature to do that yet.
SCHULTZ: The enthusiasm gap—in the poll, voters were is asked if they thought a lot about the midterm elections. Republicans at 69 percent, Democrats at 62 percent.
Also, “Which party did you vote for if you have voted already?” Fifty-two percent, Democratic, up by 10 over the Republicans. Undecided, six percent.
What do you make of that number?
ALTER: That‘s a very important number. You know, 40 percent of counties now have early voting, so this is something that has really changed in the last couple of elections. And it basically means that in the early returns, if those exit polls or the sampling that they do for early voting, vote by mail, if it‘s accurate, that would show a better-than-expected result of the ballot box for Democrats.
But there‘s so many moving pieces in this election, Ed, that we have to be very careful about jumping to too many conclusions. Part of what makes it so exciting, we don‘t yet know how this will go.
Some people will win we expect to lose, other people will lose that we expected to win. And a lot of it is going to come down to whether motivated Democrats who are in districts where there is no real contest, where either it‘s a red or a blue district, whether they will call into neighboring districts, whether they will, you know, get off the couch and work the phone banks --
SCHULTZ: Yes. Just how enthusiastic are they?
ALTER: -- just in the districts nearby. It‘s not so much about the activist Democrats themselves voting. We know they‘re going to vote.
ALTER: It‘s whether they‘re going to try to encourage people in these swing districts that they need to get out and vote.
SCHULTZ: To make a difference.
Jonathan Alter, always a pleasure. Thanks so much.
ALTER: Thanks, Ed.
SCHULTZ: Coming up, Michele Bachmann says members of Congress are getting their information off of Glenn Beck‘s chalkboard. Now we know why Washington‘s broken.
They‘re both going into detention, right into “The Zone,” next.
SCHULTZ: And in “Psycho Talk” tonight, Halloween week continues with a couple of pumpkin heads.
You like that one, Mike (ph)? I do, too.
The university brain trust of Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and “The Beckster” himself. All right? They came together on Beck‘s radio show today, and Bachmann showed why she‘s the teacher‘s pet.
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REP. MICHELE BACHMANN ®, MINNESOTA: It is the infamous Glenn Beck chalkboard. That‘s where the American people have been learning the truth.
I will tell you, members of Congress have their TVs snapped on when Glenn Beck comes on in the afternoon. We learn a lot from that infamous chalkboard about what‘s going on.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
SCHULTZ: OK. At least we now know what Republicans have been doing for the last couple of years instead of governing or working with the president. They have been watching Glenn Beck instead of working to pull the American people out of the worst recession since the depression.
Michele Bachmann and her buddies are glued to their television sets, getting tips on how to turn anything into a national security crisis.
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GLENN BECK, FOX NEWS: Believe it or not, I, tonight, am going to take you from French fries to riots. And I will show you how we go from French fries to global unrest.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHULTZ: And the Congress is paying attention to that, according to Bachmann? It‘s no shock that the Tea Partiers in Congress worship false prophet “The Beckster.” But for Michele Bachmann to say the American people learn the truth from Beck‘s goofy chalkboard, not in our locker room. That‘s “Psycho Talk.”
Coming up, here‘s the Tea Party in action for you. A Rand Paul supporter stomped on the head of an innocent protester. Rand Paul is hiding behind a paper statement. Not one, but two of them. He‘s full of garbage.
We‘ll get “Rapid Fire Response” to that.
And I‘m still hot in the collar over Mitch McConnell saying that the single most important thing for him is to make sure that President Obama is a one-term president. Senator Debbie Stabenow rips into that one tonight in “The Battleground” story.
Plus, Sharron Angle releases another racist commercial. Her campaign does.
And Joe Manchin calls John Raese crazy.
It‘s the campaign trail.
You‘re watching THE ED SHOW on MSNBC. Stay with us.
SCHULTZ: Welcome back to THE ED SHOW.
Battleground story tonight, the right-wing media is crying foul because President Obama is too partisan in his rhetoric. Oh, yes? They are whining because the president said, the Republicans can come along for the ride, but they have to, quote, “sit in the back.” They are not allowed to drive anymore because they drove the economy into the ditch. Who is going to disagree with that? Well, FOX News, Drudge and the rest of them think the president is just too partisan.
Last night, I told you on this show that Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says, his number one priority, if they get control of the Congress will be to make sure that President Obama is a one-term president. Nobody over at FOX found that partisan or offensive, did they? Conservatives have accused the president of being, well, let‘s see, count them off, a socialist, a Nazi, a foreign-born fake imposter, the list goes on and on. They made him look like a witch doctor at some of their rallies, a gang banger and a pimp, just for a few. They have sent around racist chain e-mails. They have accused him of hating America, hating white people and attempting to unplug grandma with his health care bill. Now, they are claiming his rhetoric goes too far. Cut me some slack, will you? I think telling them to sit in the back after driving our economy into the ditch was the right thing to say. Keep pounding that message, Mr. President.
Joining me now Michigan Senator Debbie Stabenow. Senator, the jobs are going one place, not Michigan, not Illinois, not in the Rust Belt, not where the manufacturing sector has been butchered, they are going overseas. And it needs to be stated that now you‘ve got Mitch McConnell saying that actually his number one job is not to replenish the economy in your state and other states that had been hit hard but to just make sure that President Obama is not around. What do you make of this rhetoric?
SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D), MICHIGAN: Well, Ed it is unbelievable to me, and I hope people are really listening to this because our number one priority, regardless of the results in this election are jobs, American jobs and when we tried in September to close loopholes to keep jobs in America, we didn‘t have one republican that voted with us, not one.
And so, if Mitch McConnell is going to continue doing what he has done for the last two years, just focus on getting back power and playing politics, he will be held accountable in and his colleagues, but too many people are hurting in this country, as you know. We have got to keep focusing on jobs. We have got to keep focusing on the folks whose houses are under water. The people who want us to fight for them.
And as you see the latest numbers where the top 74 wealthiest people in the country, now are averaging more than $500 million a year apiece? Well, Mitch can continue to worry about them. We are going to worry about the millions of Americans that want to work and know how to work but need a job.
SCHULTZ: Senator, in your political experience, have you ever heard the opposition ever make it a target to make it the single most important job is to make sure that the president isn‘t successful, the president doesn‘t get his job back, I mean, you go through the great leaders of Tip O‘Neill, you know all of them. Have you ever heard something like that?
STABENOW: No, I never have. And in fact, Ed, we all know that if we said something like that, we would be called unpatriotic. I mean, we have a country that still at war, we are in the middle of coming out of that hole, incredible financial crisis, the biggest one since the great depression. People are hurting.
People want us to be serious and focus on the things that affect their lives and that‘s what we are about. And so, you know, we are going to continue to focus on jobs, we‘re going to continue to help small businesses, you know, we pass a small business bill, as you know. Eight different tax cuts and small business lending and only had two republican colleagues join with us, but we are going to continue push forward.
And we are going to focus on making sure that we do everything humanly possible to have the words “Made in America” on things again and frankly, Ed, I would like it so say, “Made in Michigan.”
SCHULTZ: Senator, good to have you with us tonight. I appreciate your time on THE ED SHOW.
STABENOW: Thank you.
SCHULTZ: For more on where the jobs are actually going, let me bring in Scott Paul, the executive director for the Alliance for American Manufacturing. I want to show you just a couple of things.
Industry week had a very interesting survey put out, 19 facts contributing to the deindustrialization of America. The first one is that we have lost approximately 42,400 factories, that‘s factories, not workers since 2001.
Scott, what do you make of that number?
SCOTT PAUL, DIRECTOR, ALLIANCE FOR AMERICAN MANUFACTURING: I tell you what it is the worst industrial decade that we have had in our history, including the great depression. And what it means is that we are losing wealth, we are losing jobs, we are losing opportunities, we are racking up trade deficits. And it is not like other countries took these jobs. It is not like the free market took these jobs. We gave them away.
SCHULTZ: So, and also, the manufacturing sector has lost 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs in the last ten years. And the third one, I want to point out tonight is the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040.
So when we talk about leaving something for our grand kids and too much debt, how about this one right here? If we don‘t make anything, how can we be a great country?
PAUL: Well, that‘s exactly right. And the economists like to tell you, well, if we lose manufacturing, we will go into better jobs. The fact is that hasn‘t happened. The five and a half million people who have lost their manufacturing jobs over the last decade have ended up in low-paying jobs if they have ended up in any jobs at all. And you can see that the results of that across the country.
SCHULTZ: So, do you see Speaker Boehner in anyway, that is what he thinks he is going to be, coming forth with any kind of conclusion or any kind of solution that would turn this around, to give those who work in the manufacturing sector some hope that gosh, maybe Washington will help the situation out. And then couple of that with the fact that you have got Mitch McConnell saying that really his number one priority is to defeat the president. With these numbers and with that environment, how are you going to get anything done?
PAUL: Well, I tell you what, the republican record on manufacturing was abysmal, even before the recession began and I don‘t have a lot of hope that their philosophy which is kind of hands off, you know, let the market dictate what is going to happen is going to help manufacturing. We need a manufacturing policy, we know it is popular among republican voters, independent voters, Tea Party supporters but the folks who were out of step with this Ed, are the Washington leadership.
PAUL: The Republican Party. They don‘t get it. And I think the Democrats are right, if we put it in R, we are going to go backwards. We can‘t afford to do that in manufacturing.
SCHULTZ: Scott Paul, good to have you with us tonight. Thanks, very much.
PAUL: Thanks, Ed.
SCHULTZ: Now, let‘s get some rapid fire response from our panel on these stories.
I want to get the reaction to the altercation outside the Rand Paul/Jack Conway debate last night in Kentucky where a Paul supporter stomped on the head of a democratic activist. And columnist Andrew Sullivan says, losing the House would be the best thing for President Obama? Really?
With us tonight, democratic strategist, Todd Webster and republican strategist, John Feehery. Gentlemen, good to have you with us tonight. The videotape is repulsive. Yet, we have had two statements today from Rand Paul‘s campaign but not Rand Paul himself. Todd Webster, what do you think?
TODD WEBSTER, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, look, the video is shocking. You know, it looks like a curb stomping, this guy is getting ready to do a curb stomping. It was like that scene out of “American History X,” where Edward Norton jumps out of bed, runs outside, shoots the guy for trying to steal his father‘s car, and then puts the head on the curb and stomp on the guy‘s head. It is unbelievable.
But I think even worse than premeditated violence against women is what would happen if it is terrible, if Rand Paul were elected and were pushing things through like a $2,000 Medicare deductible, like a 23 percent sales tax across the board for groceries and food and medicine. Rand Paul in the Senate would be --
SCHULTZ: Todd, you were—Todd, he worked on campaigns many times in the past in your career. I mean, Rand Paul has not personally come out and addressed this. I mean, don‘t you think that‘s a problem?
WEBSTER: For him, absolutely. I think it is a distraction, it is not helpful to him in getting his message and focusing on what he wants to politically for the last week of this campaign. I think that he probably should man up and address it and try to put it behind him.
SCHULTZ: John Feehery what do you think?
WEBSTER: So far, they have not done that.
JOHN FEEHERY, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Well, Ed, first of all it is a tragic situation. You know, people get inflamed at these types of rallies. Obviously, there was some concerns about altercations, things like that happen on occasion, but it is tragic and it‘s unfortunate. Rand Paul is not to blame for this though, I mean, he was going into the debate. And the person is really inflamed this debate the most, inflamed the whole election down there is Jack Conway with his despicable ad questioning Rand Paul‘s Christianity. Now, the problem that we have here is in this cable world we live in, we aren‘t really addressing issues that matter to the country and people are getting all inflamed and --
SCHULTZ: We are addressing the issues. I take offense to that john. You are not a fair broker on this. We do go right to the issues that are pertinent to the people. And if you don‘t think potential violence is not pertinent, I mean, the videotape speaks for itself. Would you --
FEEHERY: Well, no question. I think it was terrible.
SCHULTZ: Are you saying that cable should not run this?
FEEHERY: No, what I‘m saying is emotions are way high. What we‘ve got to do is not focus on that and get people even more emotionally wound up, what we need is to show some leadership, discuss the issues that are facing this election and get back to those things.
FEEHERY: And not stir these things up even more.
SCHULTZ: I think it is clearly our job to show exactly what kind of stuff is happening out on the campaign trail. And when you have a guy who‘s got a Rand Paul shirt on, lo and behold, he turns out he is the county coordinator. He is in the nuts and bolts of the campaign and it takes it upon himself to do physical harm to a woman or any one, I mean, come on.
FEEHERY: Well, Ed, I know, first of all, I agree with you on that. No question. It is unfortunate. Emotions get wound up in these types of things and what happened there was absolutely unfortunate.
SCHULTZ: So John, let ask you, OK, you have condemned the tape, obviously a bad situation, but the candidate, the candidate hides behind his campaign and doesn‘t personally come out and say enough is enough, stop this stuff, it‘s over, don‘t do this, I have nothing to do with it. Where is Rand Paul tonight?
FEEHERY: Well, you know, he has put out a couple of statements. This was not Rand Paul‘s fault. He wasn‘t --
SCHULTZ: He is the leader. He is the leader and he—that is his campaign worker, John. Come on, now.
FEEHERY: Well, he put out statements and I think that we got to move on and focus on the issues and one with the person really inflamed this debate was Jack Conway with that despicable ad questioning Rand Paul‘s Christianity. I think that is what‘s really got them all wound up.
SCHULTZ: OK, so that ad put his campaign worker over the top to stop on a woman on a curb because she had a moveon.org.
FEEHERY: That is despicable.
SCHULTZ: OK. But I didn‘t hear you say that Rand Paul needs to come out personally and condemn this. I didn‘t hear that.
FEEHERY: Well, I didn‘t say it. That‘s why.
SCHULTZ: All right. That‘s fine. I think that feeds into it as well. There is a signature of sorts saying, well this is will go away, just got a little emotional. Wait a minute, if you don‘t nip it in the bud, what happens the next time? There have been, let‘s say, we have journalists in handcuffs, we‘ve had Sharron Angle‘s people have some violent things take place. How about Congressman Juan Grijalva, swastikas, stuff sent to his office and now we‘ve got physical activity happening before a debate in Kentucky? This is America. If we don‘t speak up, who will? Todd Webster, your thoughts.
WEBSTER: Well, look, I agree with you, I think it was despicable, I think it was frank tragic. I think passions are certainly inflamed but I think that John‘s point, let‘s have a discussion of the issues about where these two guys stand. Rand Paul is saying, let‘s make seniors pay $2,000 a year out-of-pocket before they get --
SCHULTZ: Well, Rand Paul said, he wasn‘t really sure he was going to show up for the next debate because he didn‘t like the last one.
WEBSTER: Yes. Let‘s talk about --
FEEHERY: Well, let‘s go back in the Jack Conway—
WEBSTER: Let‘s talk about the issues in the campaign. I think Jack Conway would be happy to have that debate with Rand Paul and what is in the best interest in the future --
SCHULTZ: Todd Webster, John Feehery, great to have you with us.
WEBSTER: Thank you.
FEEHERY: Thank you.
SCHULTZ: Good to have you on tonight.
Coming up, Sharron Angle, she likes a good game of hide-and-seek with the press, but this is becoming really ridiculous. She is using decoys to fake out the reporters and sneak out the back door? Mackenzie Warren is a reporter who has been duped by Angle in her campaign. She reveals how it all happened in the Playbook, coming up.
SCHULTZ: And it is not too late to let us know what you think. The number to dial is 1-877-ed-msnbc. Tonight‘s telephone survey question is, do you think Rand Paul should publicly denounce the violence of his supporters? Press one for yes. Press two for no. Again, the number to dial is 1-877-ed-msnbc. We‘re right back.
SCHULTZ: And in my Playbook tonight, Sharon Angle is hiding something, she has been dodging reporters since the start of her campaign and now she‘s taking it on a step further and pretty clever, and she‘s actually tricking report with decoys and fake outs.
Joining me now is a reporter that Sharron Angle dodged, Mackenzie Warren, a morning reporter for NBC affiliate KRNV in Reno, Nevada. Mackenzie, good to have you with us tonight. What happened here? Where were you? What were you doing?
MACKENZIE WARREN, KRNV REPORTER: It was a closed media event at Microsoft licensing in Reno. Angle was making a workplace visit. Now, the press wasn‘t invited but being the race that it is, everyone in Reno showed up. And she came in, quickly walked in, people were kind of calling out to her, are you going to talk to us? And she just walked right in the building and we waited, waited for nearly two hours. And never saw her come out. And then one of her staffers was on the phone and very audibly, so all of to us could hear, he said, OK, is she ready? Is she coming down? We‘re out here and there was an SUV running and everyone immediately, you know, thought she was finally going to exit.
So everyone started recording and shortly thereafter, two women walked out and at first we were a little bit confused and then we realized that neither of the women was Angle. They both got in the car and they drove off and we continued to wait. And turns out, according to one of her staffers, they did take her out a side exit. I was actually standing at one of the side exits watching it and never saw someone come out of there, so we really don‘t know how she got out.
SCHULTZ: So, this is how it‘s been throughout the entire campaign and this is Sharron Angle earlier, just last week, shushing one of the reporters. Here it is.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Sharron, can we talk to you about why—
SHARRON ANGLE ®, NEVADA SENATE CANDIDATE: Shhh. I have to get on, but I just want to ask you to get out the vote, OK? Thank you.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SCHULTZ: When you call her campaign, when reporters call her campaign, what kind of response do you get?
WARREN: Ed, our station, along with the other affiliates here in Reno had a really hard time getting a hold of Sharron Angle and her people. Classic example, we have the Senate debate, only Senate debate between Senator Reid and Ms. Angle and we submitted questions from our viewers, the economy is tough here, a lot of our viewers have questions and they want clarification and Reid did answer back and we still haven‘t heard back from Angle. So, it has been hard to get a hold of them and get answers.
SCHULTZ: So, bottom line is she is letting all the money that‘s pouring in the first 13 days of October, she raised $3.5 million, 80 percent of the money is coming in from out of state. She is basically letting the commercials do the talking for her, is that your estimation about how this is all working?
WARREN: From our standpoint, they aren‘t calling us back. I called the office all day yesterday and again today. And we are not going to give up. We are going to continue to keep calling to get the answers that our viewers have.
SCHULTZ: Mackenzie Warren, good to have you with us tonight. Thanks so much.
Some final pages in the Playbook tonight, we got some beat-up quarterbacks in the NFL, don‘t we? Brett Favre has two fractures in his ankle but still might play this weekend against New England. He is starting an NFL record 291st consecutive games. But Dallas cowboy quarterback Tony Romo will not be playing any time soon, he was hammered by the Giants last night and suffered a broken left clavicle. He is out at least six to eight weeks.
Coming up, poodles, poop and politics. A week to go before the midterms and it‘s becoming a real mess on the air. Radio talk show host, nationally syndicated Stephanie Miller takes on the wacky campaign commercials next, right here THE ED SHOW. Stay with us.
SCHULTZ: And finally tonight on THE ED SHOW, with a week to go until the election, candidates are getting desperate and they are losing all sense of reason in a wave of last-minute campaign commercials. Meg Whitman acknowledges voters don‘t like her. Jerry Brown makes it seem like Whitman is endorsing him. And Pennsylvania Congressman Joe Sestak running for the Senate, he scoops poop?
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REP. JOE SESTAK (D), PENNSYLVANIA: I‘m Joe Sestak and this is Belle.
My family loves Belle but she can make a mess and we have to clean it up. I think about Belle when I see Congressman Toomey‘s ads attacking me. Make me sick to bail out the banks. I had to clean up the mess left behind by these guys. They let Wall Street run wild. Now, Pat Toomey is attacking me for cleaning up his mess. I authorize this message because we deserve leaders who solve problems instead of playing politics.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHULTZ: All right. Joe, I‘m rooting for you, buddy, but you got to let the poodle go, no offense. Black lab is where it‘s at.
All right. For more of these commercials, let me bring in nationally syndicated radio talk show host, Stephanie Miller. Stephanie, you‘re dog owner, you‘ve been down that road, you ever think about putting something like that in a commercial, what do you think?
STEPHANIE MILLER, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Ed, I‘m with you. As you know, I‘m a dog lover. I have two real dogs, Great Pyrenees that I rescued 125 pounds apiece. Listen, Ben Quayle didn‘t use his real kid in his ad. I think Joe needs to use my dogs or your dogs in his ad if he wants to get those steel workers on board in Pennsylvania.
SCHULTZ: How do you think that ad will go over?
MILLER: Well, you know what? I feel his pain because I pick up after my dogs every day, it‘s like following elephants at the circus, that is what it is like picking after George Bush, that‘s a great dane-sized mess, it‘s not a poodle-sized mess. So, I think, he needs to bring in an Ed Schultz or Stephanie Miller stunt dog.
SCHULTZ: All right. To your State of California, the gubernatorial race, here is Meg Whitman. Here it is.
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MEG WHITMAN ®, CALIFORNIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: I know many of you see this election as an unhappy choice between a long-time politician with no plan for the future and a billionaire with no government experience. Let me tell you my story, I‘m running for governor to restore the California dream for everyone. I‘m not a career politician or a Hollywood star, I‘m from Silicon Valley, where I created thousands of jobs at eBay, but if you want to get California moving again, I‘m ready. Are you?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHULTZ: Stephanie, how is this going to over? She is behind in the poll by nine points. Your thoughts?
MILLER: Wow. I‘m a billionaire, completely out of touch with you and I have no experience, but listen, I‘ve spent good money on this, vote for me, damn you.
SCHULTZ: And here‘s Jerry Brown‘s commercial. Let‘s take a look at it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WHITMAN: You know, 30 years ago, anything was possible in this state.
ANNOUNCER: As governor, he cut waste, got rid of the mansion and the limo, budgets were balanced, 1.9 million new jobs created, California was working.
ANNOUNCER: Jerry Brown, knowledge and know how to get California working again.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHULTZ: She needs a researcher.
MILLER: Come on, that‘s a good ad. When anything was possible.
SCHULTZ: Is Jerry Brown going to win?
MILLER: You know, Ed, latest poll, up 13 points, I think so, I have said from the beginning, I think this housekeeper story really crystallized things for people, people that are tough on immigration got that she lied that she knew this was an undocumented immigrant and people that are for comprehensive immigration reform see this for what it is. This is just heartless, this is someone that said someone was part of their family, didn‘t pay them fairly, didn‘t give them gas money and then tossed them out on the street.
SCHULTZ: And quickly Steph, what about Barbara Boxer in California?
What‘s your sense there as a resident?
MILLER: Barbara Boxer is going to take it. I really believed. She is up about eight, I know it is a tighter race, but I just think there is no way, someone that outsourced that many jobs, Ed, and is proud of it is going to be able to take California.
SCHULTZ: You bet. Stephanie, good to have you with us tonight.
MILLER: Thank you.
SCHULTZ: Our telephone survey I asked, do you think Rand Paul should publicly denounce the violence of his supporters? Ninety seven percent of you say, yes. Three percent say, no.
That is THE ED SHOW. I‘m Ed Schultz in a program note, Lauren Valle, the victim of Rand Paul‘s goon supporter will join Keith Olbermann tonight on “COUNTDOWN” 8 p.m. Eastern. “HARDBALL” with Chris Matthews next, we‘ll see you tomorrow night.
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