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Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) appears on "Meet the Press" at NBC studios November 14, 2010 in Washington, DC.
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The fate of the U.S. military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy towards gay and lesbian service members might lie in the contents of a Pentagon review of the issue set to be released Tuesday.

Or, it might not.

Many Republicans have said that they will not support repeal of the Clinton-era ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military until they see the Defense Department's report.

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“I want to see it obviously, like everybody else,” said Republican Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “I’m going to keep an open mind.”

But the report itself — even if its findings indicate that repeal is feasible — might not be enough to win key GOP votes.

That's because some prominent Republicans — including Sen. John McCain, the top Republican on the Senate panel on military issues — believe that the report itself is flawed and should not be used as justification for the repeal.

McCain argues that the Pentagon's study does not directly ask military personnel "whether" the policy should be repealed, but rather assumes that the policy will be abolished and merely addresses the question of "how."

“How best are you going to assess the effect on morale and battle effectiveness and retention unless you consult and find out what the view of the troops is?” McCain said in a brief interview on Monday.

'How best to implement a repeal of this law'
McCain's belief that the study is oriented toward implementing a new policy rather than assessing its consequences isn't disputed by Defense Secretary Robert Gates. The first line of a memo from Gates to the Pentagon's general counsel in March makes plain that President Barack Obama has “directed the Department [of Defense] to consider how best to implement a repeal of this law.”

But Gates argues that, ultimately, the Pentagon never intended to ask troops their opinion on what is ultimately a policy issue. The proposed repeal of the ban was initiated by the president and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen.

"It is not part of the working group's mandate to ask service members the broad question of whether they think DADT should be repealed, which, in effect, would amount to a referendum," Gates said in an October letter to McCain. "I do not believe that military policy decisions ... should be made through a referendum of service members."

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In Gates' March memo to his general counsel, he wrote that it was “essential that the working group systematically engage the force,” saying that broad outreach to various levels of the military community “is a critical aspect that will undoubtedly lead to insights and recommendations essential” to implementation of repeal.

“[The troops] are having a say, that’s what the purpose of the survey is,” said Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, McCain's Democratic counterpart on the panel. “They don’t make the decision, but they have opinions and they’ve been asked to express those opinions.”

The repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, which is attached to a defense authorization bill set to be addressed during the lame duck session of Congress, would require 60 votes for passage.

For the moment, key Republicans appear to be taking their cues from the Arizona lawmaker.

“I’m going to be concerned about the methodology [of the Pentagon study], that it would yield sound results,” said Sen. John Cornyn, a member of the Republican leadership team.

'Not directly in charge of the troops'
Speaking to NBC Monday, McCain also disputed criticism that he has placed undue weight on the objections of military service branch chiefs — particularly the commandant of the Marine Corps, who objects to repeal — over general openness to repeal by other military officials like Mullen and Gates.

"I'm paying attention to the commandant of the Marine Corps," he said. "I'm paying attention to the other three service chiefs who have serious concerns. They are the four guys who are directly in charge. In all due respect, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is not directly in charge of the troops. The Secretary of Defense is a political appointee who's never been in the military. And the president, obviously, has had no background or experience in the military whatsoever. It was a campaign pledge to the gay and lesbian community."

Levin disagreed, saying that the "chain of command" should dictate how military policy decisions are made.

"At the end of the day, the decision, in terms of any military decisions, are usually left to the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs after consultation with the [service] chiefs," Levin said.

Msnbc.com's Carrie Dann contributed.

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    >>> congress is having a fitd this week for a ban on openly gay troops serving in the armed forces . the senate will hold hearings later in the week on that, too. ann i want to start by asking this. we have support from secretary gates as well as president obama . what's the holdup here?

    >> the holdup is there's about ten moderate senators on both sides of the aisle who are waiting for that report due on tuesday. mostly republicans but mostly democrats say though don't want to vote on the defense authorization bill that would end don't ask don't tell until they read that report. we have reason to believe that it's going to say that a majority of troops think that it it won't be that big of a deal to end the ban on openly gay colleagues, but there are enough lawmakers out there waiting to hear the will of the troops and military leaders. it's believed that by the end of the week when they hear from the top military brass they can make a decision.

    >> the critics want to go through due process and make their decision but mentioned a majority of those in that study say that it is okay, but there are some -- there's a portion of the segment that are more resistantment.

    >> this big report is on tuesday, and it will account for a survey over the summer. it found from what we've been told that about 40% of the marines are concerned about the possibility of serving alongside openly gay troops. that's consistent with a few things i've been told. you know, you have top marine commanders who have expressed skepticism or guarded concern about the possibility of doing this, and you have a unit that is traditionally much closer and listens much more to its commanders. when you have commanders out there publicly raising concerns or skeptical about doing this, it's understandable that you would have more marines expressing concern. 40% is still a minority, but it's a sizable minority and once that will be focused on with hearings later this week.

    >> the hearings are thursday and friday, we expect to hear pro and anti-repeal. will that be able to sway the senators one way or the other?

    >> it's believed that it could. senator john mccain is the ranking republican on the senate armed services committee to hold the hearings. he wanted to hear from secretary gates and joint chiefs mullin about two co-authors of the report and heads of all of the services. it's bl believed in the conversation with the heads of services friday you will get more concern, not dissension in the ranks but they'll raise legitimate concerns and it's believed guys like mccain and ow other lawmakers may seize on the comments and say see if the service chiefs are saying there are problems, perhaps we should move forward. with that said majority of the country says this ban should be lifted. it appears that a majority of the troops in the report will say that they don't have a problem with it and the report generally is expected to say this isn't a big deal . this can be done at a time of war and here's the way to do it.

    >> ed o'keeffe, on don't ask, don't tell.

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