MEREDITH VIEIRA, co-host:
is one of the so-called young guns of the
and the incoming chair of the
House Budget Committee
, good morning to you.
Representative PAUL RYAN (Republican, Wisconsin):
As of today
just brought up, one of the key points on your agenda will be attempting to repeal the
But given the fact that you do not have the votes in the
just pointed out, and the president has veto power, and also given the fact that the American voters in the midterm elections made it clear that what they care about most right now are jobs and the
, why go down this path at all? It almost feels like an act of revenge on the part of the
Well, first of all, this is related to jobs and the
bill has massive tax increases on individuals and employers that will cost us jobs. So this -- don't think that this isn't related to jobs.
So that's why you're going after it specifically?
Second point is we made a pledge -- second point is we made a pledge to the
that we would bring up and repeal this
bill. So we're simply keeping our word to the people that we gave before the
, we think this
bill is really a
house of cards
. When you take away all the
gimmicks, it has about a $700 billion
. It's going to raise
costs, it's going to involve the government in more of a job of
and I think it's going to lead to
rationing. So this is not a popular
was very clear about that.
But do you think...
And what are we doing today? Today we're...
But do you think, Congressman...
...going to start cutting our own budgets. Today we're going to cut our budgets. We're going to focus on cutting spending and growing jobs and the
. That is our priority. Cut spending, grow jobs and the
, and yes, we will bring and repeal this
bill because we think in the interest of the
, it is important to repeal and replace this
about cutting spending because the
, you among them, made a vow, a pledge to the
back in the fall that you would cut spending by $100 billion this year. But
The New York Times
says you're already backtracking on that and all we've really heard about is trimming your own congressional
by about $35 million, which is really a drop in the bucket. So are you reneging on that promise?
No, we're not reneging on it. First of all, a 5 percent cut in our budgets we don't think is a drop, we think it's an important first step. But the problem with the $100 billion point was we said we were going to bring spending down to
levels. We are halfway through the fiscal year right now. So the problem is half the spending cats are already out of the bag, and that is why that number has become compromised. We're still going to bring spending down to the level that we said we would bring spending at, but the saving you achieve from doing so halfway through the fiscal year isn't as great as it was when we were talking about this a year ago.
You know, you --
made it very clear that they won't cut spending for the military, veterans or domestic security. Those are three areas where they will not cut spending.
Give me three areas today where you would be clearly comfortable with cutting spending, no matter how difficult it is you would be able to do it.
Right, so if you want to get a sense of where we're headed with this, look at where spending was in
, on discretionary domestic
, and that's where we intend on going. So what we said in the pledge for
is we're going to take spending to prestimulus, prebailout levels, nonsecurity spending. You know, we do have a war on terror right now. We do have troops in
right now. We don't want to pull the rug out from under those operations
because we want to
give our troops what they need and the tools they need to be successful. But all of the spending that has occurred over there, domestic
went up with stimulus,
, by 84 percent over the last two years. The base spending, which is what moves -- what we call the baseline, went up 24 percent. So the spending spree is over as far as we're concerned here in the
But can you even be more specific? You say
. Give me specifics.
Where are you going
to cut? You going to cut education, transportation, medical, what are you going to cut?
Well, that's -- that is what is going to happen in the appropriations process down the road. So I can't tell you the answer to that because as a
person, we simply lower the cap and then those things go down. We're going to be reducing all domestic
. I can't tell you by what amount and on which program, but all of it is going to be going down, and the aggregate amount will be back to
levels before the spending binge occurred.
All right, Congressman
thank you very much
and good luck to you.