the latest on accused gunman jared loughner and how far and how fast his life spiraled out of control. mike tiabbi is in tucson.
a lot of people have been puzzled and some frightened by loughner's increasingly erratic behavior. he never specifically threatened anyone with violence. the newly released police photo of
loughner won't shock his former classmates and teachers at
pima community college
. in fact they're remembering a lot about loughner they would like to forget like the weird laugh at the most inappropriate times. ex-class mates of loughner say he shouted challenges not just confusing but frightening.
during class i would write my themes on the board kind of like that and then i would look out the
corner of my eye
, it seemed like every instant, just wondering what he was going to do next.
in fact college officials say loughner's disruptive behavior earned him five visits from the
and finally expulsion. there had been problems too offcampus, two arrests one for defacing a sign with graffiti, another for possession of
. then rejection by the army when he tried to enlist, again because of his alleged
. there were more wild internet postings, little of it making sense. and in his backyard, investigators found what looks like a crude altar, a replica of a
and other ingredients reportedly used in ceremonies of the
the question is who was aware of that and if they were aware of it what did they do about it?
pima community college
, campus president would not speak specifically about loughner, but what about any student who acted as he did, frightening but not specifically threatening violence. had the college done all it could have done?
the answer to that would be yes. the college cannot be judged injury in an incident in which no threat has been made.
so loughner was free. no criminal or official
record to keep him from buying his gun and his 200 rounds of ammunition leaving experts on
issues like our own dr.
to wonder again.
we'll look back on this as yet one more time and one more awful case when so many people knew a
was about to explode and no one intervened.
the obvious question, what about loughner's parents, randy and amy loughner, they have been in seclusion since the shooting rampage. when a neighbor brought them their mail, he came out and said they are ill, they are devastated. they say they had in idea how deeply disturbed he had become.
is a former
, good morning to you.
as mike just pointed out, we're beginning to learn more about jared loughner, who this guy is, the erratic behavior in college, even his teacher said he didn't like to turn his back on the man because he was afraid maybe he would have a gun. those postings online, disturbing videos, but even knowing all of this,
, is there anything anybody could have done to stop what happened?
well, i think your statement when you started
, you talked about his life, perhaps his mind spiraling out of control, this is somebody who really lived in his own world. students would say he would be in the classroom and he would start laughing and there was nothing funny. these were thoughts, these were processes that were going on in his own mind that obviously only he was aware of and it looks like his own -- the only good friend he had may have been himself and the interaction that he had with himself. so as he spiraled, as he suffered all these losses, all these failures, and dwret maintained this focus on the congresswoman since at least
, his fear of the government, thinking the government's engaged in
, we may find out, just may find out that all of this negativity, all of his fears, wound up being focused on the congresswoman.
he lived with his parents and yet they are quoted as saying they had no idea about the severity of his mental condition, even though i guess the school had contacted him when they initially suspendal him and said this son of yours needs a
before he can come back to school. they are devastated. but how could they not know? how could they not see the signs?
two or three times a year in the
. we go through this who did it, why did they do it, how can we stop it, but in this particular case when there is family, when there are associates, we know the guy just didn't snap, we know that this was gradually built up and who knows our own children better than ourselves as parents. the issue is when the
came, they delivered a letter, they said your son is basically kicked out of
, he cannot return without a
exam. and yet there's no evidence that exam took place. i mean did the parents encourage him to get it? realize, he's 22 years old. he make his own decisions, but he was also living in their home. i think that's a challenge that many parents face today is how do we influence our children when they're making their own decisions.
isn't that how the
found an envelope in a safe, with the words written on it, i planned ahead, my assassination and giffords that certainly suggests that this was something that was planned and not random.
what's more important to me,
, they were found in a safe. what would you and i keep in a safe? we keep what's most important. we may keep irreplaceable family pictures or jewelry or cash. in his case, he kept a
letter from the congresswoman and he kept these notes about what he was planning. as well the
suggested there was another note perhaps with some
concerning the congresswoman. so again, we have this focus that was taking place but he kept everything it appears related to her locked in this safe. so that was what was most important. that's what he could go back to and refer to and then
close the door
on that safe and lock it again, and know that no one could get access.
, does that suggest that it's politically motivated or basically had nothing to do with politics?
i see nothing that suggests political motivation,
. we know that he was a registered independent, we know that he failed to vote in the last election and i have seen nothing in his writings, i have heard people describe him as liberal, as conservative, there's nothing in his writings and there's nothing that so far we know of in evidence that suggests that he was motivated by the media,
hosts, left, right,
, whoever it is, we have no information and again, we have two or three of these mass shootings every year. you and i,
, we are motivated for a lot of things, but to blame any one entity, ultimate -- the shooter at
who committed those terrible acts, he was ultimately responsible. everybody had a piece of this, they knew a little bit about him, but nobody assembled those pieces to show the picture of a