this morning the fbi updated its list of most wanted terrorists marking
that's just great. grab that a moment. finally. but the threat remains and today
will try retaliate. let's talk about this. we're joined by msnbc military analyst and former
counterterrorism official and specialist and msnbc terror specialist. roger let me start with you. the idea of a retaliation has been something on the front of all of our mind on this side of the camera. i'm sure it's something you've been monitoring and thinking about how serious is this threat in the next couple of weeks?
yeah, chuck. this is the number one priority of the counterterrorism community right now. i don't think
had a contingency plan for a series of attacks in the event
was killed. i think there are two real possibilitys. the first is individuals who had no direct affiliation took matters into their hands and launch an attack.
. pakistan and yemen in particular. what director panetta was guesting at
to the extent they have an operational capability will try to put together a plot that will launch to avenge
's death. that's a mid to long term concern. the good news is we won't take our foot off the accelerator against
. we'll continue to pound them. that's the good news even as we celebrate all we have about
general, i have to ask you as you learn more about how this operation went down from this joint
command, i assume you have a target. you believe
osama bin laden
is hiding in this compound. there are array of ways to effect this kill. what can we learn about looking at how this went down? how the
chose to execute this operation? i mean, it's not a situation where they decided to have a drone drop a bomb. instead, you had an incredibly daring operation by
. what do you make of it?
well, unsurprising but stunning. the human material, these tier one
units which include seal team six,
delta foorks ranger regiment, a specialized
air force units
, the experience is just unbelievable. many of these units have condubbedconduc conducted hundreds of raids. they are the best in the world. i'm sure there was a full scale mock up of this compound somewhere where they walked through this operation. but, again, you know, it's a
of people out at the end of their tether. this operation came out of pakistan. i would be surprised if it didn't involve
air to air refueling
of these helicopters and then they had table to respond to emergencies on the ground which they did. by the way, i would assume that helicopter was actually hit by
and that caused it to crash. they needed to land anyway to extract their people at the end of the operation.
, visual evidence of
's death, a lot of people say it is needed for some parts of the
, that they need to see this so that conspiracy theorys don't pop up. how do you understand the
will go about proving death?
well, chuck, you're absolutely right. we have to have visual evidence. word-of-mouth and the word of the administration is not good enough because we're trying to influence part of the
to under that he's truly dead. what you're seeing now is an internal deliberation at the
and pentagon and elsewhere over what type of photographs do they release. do they release any individual offhis body, anything like that. there will be some video evidence that does come out. we need to see it, not only the
in general. we want proof of death here. proof of death is to support our narrative of how we'll go forward.
if they do release the to it will be a gruesome one.
was shot in the left eye. thank you to you both for your expertise. i want