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    >>> new this morning for you, afghanistan president karzai says his country and the u.s. are holding peace talks with the taliban . karzai says the negotiations are going well. u.s. embassy officials in kabul are not commenting. this is the first official acknowledgment of peace talks in the country. i'm joined by retired colonel jack jab ccobs.

    >> it's like libya, we're supporting the rebels. who? the taliban is quite fragmented. there are bits and pieces everywhere, and each little cell has a close relationship with al qaeda . so trying to herd these guys is like herds cats and worms. it's very tough.

    >> it's been ten years. the objective has been to deal with the taliban during the war that we've been undertaking in afghanistan . what do you think these talks are aimed at that are different than before?

    >> they're trying to establish the basis for talks. we're talking about it and talking about it. the big push here, actually, is karzai . this may be just a bluff, and he's stalling for time. don't forget, collects a great deal of money from us. he's in power because of us. if he -- there's some kind of peace with the taliban , he has to share power or he'll be out altogether. this is the worry this guy is stalling for time, but the real objective here is to separate the taliban from al qaeda . we're perfectly happy to deal with the taliban . we want al qaeda out.

    >> another part is the violence that is ongoing. what we're hearing right now from the associated press is that the taliban claimed responsibility for yet another attack today, a new one, at least nine killed in that. will we see at all any sort of cessation or this mitigation of the violence happening so consistently over time ?

    >> i think it's going to increase. that's their lever to get what they want. karzai demands that the taliban as a precondition renounce violence, adhere to the constitution of afghanistan and all the rest of that stuff. they've already rejected that. this is all -- all this violence is leverage, and it will continue until there is some sort of agreement.

    >> is this the right strategy to go after all the futile lords? there is no grand leader. is it a worthwhile strategy?

    >> it's the only strategy.

    >> it's the only strategy.

    >> yeah. we're going to make peace with the bad guys in kandahar, all the places where there's lots and lots of violence now. we're in control of the areas important to us and to the taliban . we'll make peace if there is peace to be made in those areas. there's not peace across the board in that country.

    >> karzai is involved here, colonel, but it's been a troubled relationship between karzai and the united states . domestically there in afghanistan it's been difficult for karzai to have any effect outside of the capital.

    >> he's not going to either. in the end he's going to be happy with being the mayor of kabul , collecting a lot of money, which he already has, or leaving. in the end it's going to be unlikely we'll have a centrally governed afghanistan , centrally governed by karzai from kabul . that won't happen. it will continue to be fragmented.

    >> colonel jacobs, thank you souch.

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updated 6/18/2011 2:18:38 PM ET 2011-06-18T18:18:38

The United States is in contact with the Taliban about a possible settlement to the near decade-long war in Afghanistan, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said on Saturday, the first official confirmation of U.S. involvement in negotiations.

"Peace talks have started with (the Taliban) already and it is going well," Karzai told journalists in Kabul.

Karzai said that an Afghan push toward peace talks had not yet reached a stage where the government and insurgents were meeting, but their representatives had been in touch.

"The foreign military and especially the United States itself is going ahead with these negotiations," Karzai said.

"The peace negotiations between (the) Afghan government and the Taliban movement are not yet based on a certain agenda or physical (meetings), there are contacts established."

The U.S. Embassy in Kabul declined immediate comment.

Karzai was speaking the day after the U.N. Security Council split the U.N. sanctions list for Taliban and al-Qaida figures into two, which envoys said could help induce the Taliban into talks on a peace deal in Afghanistan.

But despite hopes that talks with the Taliban could provide the political underpinning for the U.S. staged withdrawal from Afghanistan, the discussions are still not at the stage where they can be a deciding factor.

Diplomats admit there have been months of preliminary talks between the two sides, but the U.S. has never confirmed any contacts. And so little is known about the exchanges that they have been open to widely different interpretations.

There are also many Afghans, among them women's and civil society activists, who fear talks with the insurgents could undo much of the progress they have made since the 2001 ouster of the Taliban government.

The closest anyone in the U.S. establishment has come to publicly acknowledging efforts to kick-start talks was when Defense Secretary Robert Gates said this month there could be political talks with the Taliban by the end of this year, if the NATO alliance kept making military advances on the ground.

Strategic partnership
Afghanistan's neighbors are nervous about plans for a strategic partnership with the United States, which may include long-term bases on Afghan soil, Karzai also warned.

"The issue of strategic partnership deal with U.S. has caused tensions with our neighbors," Karzai said. "When we sign this strategic partnership, at the same time we must have peace in Afghanistan."

That is unlikely however, as the deal is expected to be concluded in months, and even the most optimistic supporters of talks expect the process to take years.

If successful, the deal might ease worries among those Afghans who fear the United States will pull out too quickly, leaving a weak, impoverished government to fend off militants, and those who worry the foreign forces they see as occupiers will never leave.

Video: Debate heats up over end game in Afghanistan (on this page)

President Barack Obama is expected to announce next month how many troops he plans to withdraw from Afghanistan as part of a commitment to begin reducing the U.S. military presence from July and hand over to Afghan security forces by 2014.

The United States is on the verge of announcing a "substantial" drawdown of American troops from Afghanistan, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said on Friday.

"There's going to be a drawdown. I am confident that it will be one that's substantial. I certainly hope so," the leading Senate Democrat said during an interview with PBS Newshour.

There currently are about 100,000 U.S. troops fighting in Afghanistan, up from about 34,000 when Obama took office in 2009.

Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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