's son james is now being accused of not telling the truth during a key part of his testimony to parliament tuesday. during tuesday's testimony,
said he was never told about a vital email suggesting reporter neville thur elback was involved in phone hacking. but today, collin miler, editor of "news of the world" just before it shut down and tom crone, the paper's former head of
, said they had told
of the email which included transcripts of hacked voicemails. in a joint statement, they said --
. then issued this statement.
stands by his testimony to the
. the committee chairman may ask
to appear again before parliament to clear up that matter. this cartoon appeared in today's edition of
's british newspaper "the times," under the word "priorities." the cartoon shows a group of starving so mallian children with one of them saying, i've had a bellyful of phone hacking. the cartoon provoked a storm of criticism on twitter. the bbc's robert rea tweeted, disgraceful. implies focusing on corruption allows famine to go unchecked. npr's louisa lim said it's crude, tasteless, and comes off as pro
propaganda. and on this side of the ocean, it seems like the
is indeed investigating claims of news
. repeatedly hacking one of its rivals.
joining me now,
. michael, what is the latest in terms of the investigation that's going on here in the states?
well, the new development is this company in new jersey, floor graphics, which is an advertising firm that does floor graphics for safeway and stores like that, had been a rival of news
, which was the advertising division of news
. and back in
, it discovered that its password protected
had been hacked and traced it to an
, its competitor. they reported this to the
at the time, to the
's office, then headed by
in new jersey, and the new jersey
. nothing came of those. but these allegations were a central part of a lawsuit that floor graphics filed against news
, and that was settled with a $29 million payment by news
to the owners of floor graphics in
. what happened this week is the lawyer for floor graphics gets contacted by two prosecutors at the
's office out of the
southern district of new york
, and an
agent, asking about the details of that
incident. it was clearly related to this broader inquiry of news
. that was ordered last week by attorney general holder, and it's the first sign of a tangible, specific allegation of hacking in the
that's being investigated by the
and so where -- news of
, who is in that entity? who would be exposed in this?
the chairman and ceo is a man by the name of paul carlucci, who is the publisher of "the new
post." he was at news of
, and he was promoted to the job of "new
post" editor in
. after this incident had taken place.
so here is an operation that may have engaged in this kind of activity just in its operation of an advertising business. when you move over into the operations of "the new
post," there could be even more interesting ways as they have discovered in london in the newspapers to exploit that kind of thing.
well, could be. but let's be clear. we don't have any evidence of that. and i should also point out that it would be very hard to see how the feds could make a case about this particular allegation alone at this time, because the statute of limitations has expired. there's a five-year statute of limitations on
. but if it's part of a broader pattern of conduct, which is what lawyers suspect, the
and the prosecutors are trying to look at here, is there this broader pattern, if so, then this could become part of that.
and big surprise, a very, very sharp contradiction in
's testimony plays out today. and the
response was basically no response at all.
right. you know, the interesting character to watch there is tom crone, the lawyer. he's made clear that he's not going to be the
here. and if they -- if the murdochs and news
. try to lay everything on him, because he was the chief lawyer for "news of the world," he's not going to sit idly by. so if the brits are looking for a
character in all this, i would think that tom crone is the guy to watch, and the statement today contradicting
's testimony about that email is the first sign that he may in fact be willing to go there.
nbc news national investigative correspondent
. thank you for joining me tonight, michael.
thank you, lawrence.