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    President BARACK OBAMA: Our incredible servicemen and women need know that America values them, not simply for what they can do in uniform, but for what they can do when they come home.

    LESTER HOLT, anchor: Even as the nation got the latest news about jobs, President Obama announced a big new push to find jobs for America 's men and women in uniform who often find themselves coming home from the front lines, only to wind up on the unemployment line. One such veteran is part of an extraordinary documentary by Tom Brokaw that airs this weekend called " The Road Back ." Tom has been reporting on this man for nine years now and tonight shares a soldier's story.

    TOM BROKAW reporting: Four months before the war began, I first met Staff Sergeant Charles Weaver at his Army base at Fort Stewart , Georgia . He was training his mortar squad with a growing sense of mission because the promise of conflict with Iraq was in the air. Do you ever allow yourself to think, 'God, I might get hurt or I may not come back'?

    Staff Sergeant CHARLES WEAVER: Of course.

    BROKAW: His wife, Dawn , a special ed teacher, shared those fears.

    DAWN: 'What happens if I do lose him? What am I going to do? How am I going to mentally prepare myself? And how do I explain that to my kids?'

    BROKAW: March 19, 2003 , the US attacked Baghdad with a massive force, to shock and awe Saddam Hussein into submission. The fighting became intense as Weaver and his unit waged the battle for Baghdad . When it came time to pull the trigger, no hesitation?

    Staff Sgt WEAVER: Pulled the -- no hesitation. Pulled the trigger.

    BROKAW: In August, 2003 , he returned home to his base and family.

    Staff Sgt. WEAVER: What's up , squirt?

    BROKAW: But in the years after he got home, Weaver was a changed man, physically and mentally, wrestling with injury, sickness and the stress of combat. Did you lose some friends?

    Staff Sgt. WEAVER: Yeah, I did. So...

    BROKAW: And since leaving the military, Weaver has been fighting the great recession.

    Staff Sgt. WEAVER: I've been retired for a year. I still -- I'm still looking for work.

    BROKAW: Weaver 's military pension barely covers the mortgage payments on his modest small town home . You think the country owes you something now?

    Staff Sgt. WEAVER: The only thing I think that is owed to me is at least the opportunity to go to work for somebody and prove to them that somebody coming from the military has a lot to offer.

    BROKAW: In small towns across America , like here in Big Timber , Montana , where they post the name of every young man and every young woman in this county serving in the military on signs on Main Street , they know what these returning veterans are going through. But nationally the unemployment rate for returning veterans is 13 percent, and for younger returning veterans, it's as high as 27 percent. Lester :

    HOLT: Thanks, Tom.

    This special edition of "Dateline: The Road Back " premieres Sunday at 7, 6 Central here on NBC .

    LESTER HOLT, anchor: And one other note about America 's servicemen and women . The Pentagon today announced that after a decade of grueling combat deployments, often back to back, the Army has decided to reduce the length of war zone deployments from the usual one year to nine months. In addition, the Army will increase the amount times -- amount of time spent back home between deployments. Up next

Image: U.S. Air Force veteran Michael McElroy talks to a recruiter
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U.S. Air Force veteran Michael McElroy (R) talks to a recruiter during a "Hiring our Heroes" job fair aimed at out-of-work military veterans, sponsored by the Loudoun County Chamber of Commerce in Ashburn, Virginia.
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updated 8/5/2011 7:35:13 AM ET 2011-08-05T11:35:13

President Barack Obama is asking Congress to approve new initiatives to help some of America's 1 million unemployed military veterans find work, including tax credits for companies that hire out-of-work vets.

The proposal Obama is to outline Friday is part of the president's efforts to return to a focus on jobs after spending weeks mired in the contentious debt-limit debate that consumed the White House for much of the summer.

His announcement was to come shortly after the Labor Department releases a new round of nationwide unemployment data.

Last month's jobs report was dismal, with the country's unemployment rate ticking up to 9.2 percent and job growth slowing nearly to a halt.

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Army soldiers to get deployment relief

The White House says the sluggish economy creates additional challenges for veterans looking to enter the civilian labor market. About 1 million veterans are unemployed, according to the administration, including former 260,000 service members who joined the military after the Sept. 11 attacks.

The administration says the unemployment rate for the post-Sept. 11 service members is 13.3 percent — more than 4 percentage points higher than the national average.

More than 1,000 job applications
Those figures come as no surprise for Army officers like Donna Bachler, who says she has not had a regular paycheck since she left active duty four years ago.

Bachler, 30, helped run the Army's postal service in Kuwait, tackling challenges such as how to crack down on mailed contraband and speeding the flow of mail to troops.

Now back in the United States, she gets by on her husband's salary, which will be cut by more than half when he retires from the military as soon as next year.

"One of the ways I sold (military service) to myself and my parents is 'it looks good on a resume,'" said Bachler, who estimates she has applied for at least 1,000 jobs since 2007. "Sadly, it doesn't."

As U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan wind down, tens of thousands of veterans are flooding the job market at a time when millions of civilians cannot find jobs.

From 2008 to 2010, the unemployment rate rose from 7.3 percent to 11.5 percent and it is expected to climb as more troops come home this year — 10,000 from Afghanistan and, unless Iraq requests some to stay, the remaining 46,000 from that country.

"There is a sense of abandonment," said Daniel Nichols, former chief of staff for the Labor Department's Veteran Employment and Training Services. He is now director of Military to Medicine, which trains veterans and their spouses for jobs in healthcare.

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Obama plan includes tax credits
The main features of Obama's proposal, according to administration officials, are two tax credits for companies that hire unemployed veterans:

  • A "Returning Heroes" tax credit for 2012-2013. Companies that hire unemployed veterans would receive a $2,400 tax credit. That tax credit would increase to $4,800 if the veteran has been unemployed for six months or more.
  • A two-year extension of the "Wounded Warriors" tax credit, which gives companies that hire veterans with service-related disabilities a $4,800 credit. If the veteran has been unemployed for six months of more, the tax credit increases to $9,600.

The tax credits would require congressional approval. Administration officials said the White House would start working with lawmakers on the proposal after Congress returns from its recess in September.

One official said the administration estimates the cost of the tax credits at $120 million.

Challenge
The officials spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss the initiatives ahead of the president's announcement at the Washington Navy Yard.

During his remarks Friday, Obama also will challenge private companies to hire or train 100,000 veterans by the end of 2013. He is expected to name some companies that already have committed to taking part in that effort.

The president also will announce a joint initiative between the Defense and Veterans Affairs departments to come up with a "reverse boot camp" program that would help train service members for the civilian workforce as they wind down their time in the military.

Difficult to translate skills 'into civilian terms'
In the tight job market, recent veterans say they are passed over for jobs not because they are unqualified but because they lack required credentials, a formal education or a way to describe their military skills that employers understand.

"I compare myself to civilians I know and I have had leadership opportunities — making the hard choice — that I don't see in my civilian counterparts," said David Nawrocki, a 30-year-old staff sergeant.

He ran an ammunition supply point in Afghanistan and, as a logistics coordinator in Washington, worked out ways to save the Army more than $1 million earlier this year.

"I don't know how to translate it into civilian terms," said Nawrocki, who joined the Army at 17 and has not finished college.

In Virginia, a frustrated Sergeant Nawrocki is starting an online training course in logistics — even though he has 13 years' experience.

"I know I can do the job but I know employers don't understand that and want to see the certification," he said.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

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