introducing another affiliate of ours, how are you doing?
good evening, nice to see you all. nice to see you all. i want to talk about a subject dear to the heart of
, he was the last
. all of you, i think, have said you don't think
should be discussed until the
is secure, and governor, i'd like to ask you,
governor, what specifically, in your mind, would make the
well, the first thing you need to do is have
boots on the ground
. we've had a request in to this administration since january of
troops, and working towards 3,000
. that's just on the texas
. there's another 50% more for the entire
, so you can secure the
, but it requires a commitment of the
of putting those
boots on the ground
, aviation assets in the air, we think predator drones could be flown and realtime information coming down to the local, state, and
enforcement, and you can secure the
and at that particular point in time you can have an intellectually appropriate discussion about
. for the
president of the united states
to go to
, texas, and say the
is safer than it's ever been, either he has the poorest intel or he was a liar to the
. it is not safe on that
governor, specifically, do you agree or disagree with some of the issues the
governor of texas
says as far as what you would consider enough to be able to declare the
well, first, we ought to have a fence.
the whole fence, 2,600 miles?
or a approved system to know who's
coming into the country
, number one. number two, we have to have enough agents to secure the fence, but the third thing, and i learned this when i was with
. look, they can always get a ladder to go over the fence, the reason they come in such great numbers is because we've left the magnet on. what do you mean, the magnet? when employers are willing to hire people illegally, that's a magnet.
giving tuition breaks to
, employers knowingly hire people who are here illegally. those things have to be stopped. we have to make sure we have a fence technologically showing where people are, and turn off that magnet. we can't talk about amnesty, we can't give amnesty to those who come here illegally. let those people come in first and those here illegally, they shouldn't have a special deal.
speaker gingrich, your perception on
, you've been different on your initial positions.
i think we have to find a way to get to a country in which everybody who's here is here legally, but you started by referencing
, i voted for the simson mizoliac.
wrote in his diary that year he signed the act because we were going to have an employer-program where it was an illegal
guest worker program
. that's in his diary. i'm with
, we ought to control the
, have a legal
guest worker program
, outsource it to
, visa, and mastercard so there's no counter counterfeiting. make english the
of government, we should insist first generation immigrants that come here learn
in order to become citizens, and also insist american citizens learn
, and then find a way to deal with folks already here, some of whom are here 25 years, live in our neighborhood, go to church, it has to be done in a more humane way than automatically to deport millions of people.
's. look, i'm the son of an italian immigrant. i think immigration is one of the great things that's made this country the dynamic country that it continues to be, people who are drawn because of the ideals of this country, and so we should not have a debate talking about how we don't want people to come to this country, but we want them to come here like my grandfather and my father came here, they made sacrifices, they came in the
with no promises or government benefits. they came because they wanted to be free and good law-abiding citizens. we have to have a program in place that says you want to come to this country, come according to the rules, it's a very good first step that the first thing you do here is a
, not an illegal act.
so there are 11 million people that are here, what do you do with them if you are able to secure the
well, i think we can have the discussion that whether what we do with people, how long they've been here, whether they have other types of records, but to have that discussion right now and pull the same trick that was pulled in
, well, we promise to do this if you do that, no more. we are going to secure the
first, and that's the most important thing to do, then we'll have the discussion afterwards.
congresswoman, you said the fence, you believe the fence is fundamental controlling the
, let's say in
, there's a fence,
is secure, gasoline is $2 a gallon, what do you do then with 11 million people, many of whom with u.s.-born children here, what do you do?
understand the context and the problem we're dealing with. many mexico right now, we're dealing with terrorists. this is a very serious problem. to not build a
or a fence on every part of that
would be, in effect, to yield
sovereignty, not only to our nation but to another nation. that we cannot do. one thing the
have said to me
over and over
again. last week i was in miami with
, i met with a number of people, and it's very interesting, the hispanic-american community wants to stop giving benefits to
and benefits to their children as well.
a quick 30-second rebuttal on the specific question. the fence is built,
is under control, what do you do with 11.5 million here without documents or u.s.-born children?
sequential and it depends where they live, how long they've been here, if they have a
, all of those things have to be taken into place, but one thing we know, our
worked beautifully in the
, up until the
, when people had to demonstrate they had money in their pocket, had no diseases, weren't a felon, learned
and the constitution, and the one thing they had to promise is that they would not become a burden on the american tax payer. that's what we have to enforce.
let's make sure -- let's solve all of the problems, it's not one problem. i do believe we can secure the
with a combination of
boots on the ground
, technology, and a fence, but we have three other problems. we got to secure the
, secondly, let's promote the path to citizenship that's already there. we don't need a new one, we just need to clean up the bureaucracy that's slowing the process down and discouraging people. third thing we need to do, enforce the laws that are states. i believe that the people closest to the problem are the best ones to be able to solve that problem, empower the states to do what the
hasn't done, can't do, and won't do. this is how we solve the entire problem.
thank you, governor.
i would just have to say that i agree with so much of what has been said here today.
, when he made his decision back in
, he saw this as a human issue, and i hope that all of us, as we deal with this immigration issue, will always see it as an issue that resolves around real
. yes, they came here in an illegal fashion and yes, they should be punished in some fashion. i have two daughters that came here legally of the we can find a solution. if
were here, he would speak to the
and lay out how we can get there, remembering full well we're dealing with
here. but let me say one thing, let's not lose sight of the fact our immigration system is broken and if we want to do something about attracting
to this country, if we want to lift
values, why is it vancouver is the fastest-growing
real estate market
in the world today? they allow immigrants in legally.
obviously, it's a problem. we need to remove the easy road to citizenship. nobody has mentioned the fact they qualify for benefits as well,
state of texas
shouldn't be forced to provide free
, but there is a mess down there, and it's a big mess, and it's the
that's going on there, and our
are driving this, so now we're killing thousands and thousands of people, that makes it much more complica complicated, but the people that want big fences and guns, sure, barbed wire fence with
, that's not what america is about. if we had a healthy economy, this wouldn't be such a bad deal, but every time you think about this toughness on the
and i.d. cards and real ideas, it's a penalty against the
too. i think this fence business is designed and may well be used against us and keep us in. in economic turmoil, people want to leave with their capital and there's
and people control. every time you think about the fence, think about the fences being used against us keeping us in.