MATT LAUER, co-host:
Let us begin, though, this half-hour with that incredibly disturbing story out of
Texas
,
video
of a father repeatedly hitting his
daughter
with a belt. He is a judge. And a warning, this is very difficult to watch. We'll talk to the judge's
daughter
exclusively in a moment. But first,
NBC
's
Janet Shamlian
is live in
Rockport
,
Texas
, with the story.
Janet
, good morning to you.
JANET SHAMLIAN reporting:
Matt
, good morning. Yeah, it bears repeating: This
video
is graphic, it is disturbing, it's difficult to watch, and it has taken the
Internet
by storm. More than 1.6 million views on
YouTube
, most of those within the last 24 hours. A
Texas
judge here in
Rockport
,
Aransas County
, repeatedly whipping his teenage
daughter
with a leather strap even as she was crying and pleading with him to stop.
Judge WILLIAM ADAMS:
Get over here.
SHAMLIAN:
The man in this
video
is
Texas
Judge
William Adams
and the girl is his then 16-year-old
daughter
, who has cerebral palsy.
Judge ADAMS:
Bend over
that bed.
Bend over
the bed.
Bend over
the bed!
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS (Released Videotape of Beating From Her Father):
Stop!
SHAMLIAN:
The beating continues unabated for most of the seven-minute
video
that has swept the
Internet
and provoked an online outcry.
Again and again
,
Hillary Adams
cries out after being lashed by her father's belt on her legs, her arms and her buttocks, once at the hand of her mother.
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS (Mother of Hillary Adams):
You
turn over
. I'm going to spank on your butt. You
turn over
like a 16-year-old and take it! Like a grown woman!
Turn over
!
SHAMLIAN:
The disturbing scene was captured seven years ago in her bedroom,
Hillary
says, after her dad found out she had downloaded music from an illegal website.
Judge ADAMS:
Are you happy? Huh? Disobeying your parents?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Stop!
SHAMLIAN:
After holding onto the
video
since
2004
,
Hillary
, now 23 and living on her own, uploaded it to
YouTube
after she says her father continued to harass her and she finally had enough.
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
The disputes and the harassment were escalating and finally it just was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back, and I told him I had the
video
and he brushed it off.
SHAMLIAN:
William Adams
isn't just
Hillary
's father. He's a judge in
south Texas
, where he routinely rules on cases involving children. He also sits on a
county board
overseeing the juvenile system. He admits that's him in the
video
.
Judge ADAMS:
No, I -- in my mind I haven't done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was
caught stealing
.
And I
did lose my temper but I've since apologized. It looks worse than it is. There is a story. It'll come out in
due time
, OK?
Offscreen Voice:
And it's because she downloaded a game onto your computer or something?
Judge ADAMS:
No, she was stealing -- I don't want to get into it, OK?
Voice:
OK.
Judge ADAMS:
But there was a reason she was being disciplined.
SHAMLIAN:
But as a family's private feud went public and viral, outrage has boiled over. Facebook pages have sprung up decrying Judge
Adams
. The
Texas Commission
on
Judicial Conduct
has been flooded with demands he be removed from the bench, and in tiny
Rockport
, police have been swamped by calls from
all over the world
. Chief
Tim Jayroe
has opened an investigation at the district attorney's request to determine whether the beating was criminal. When does it cross the line? When does discipline within a family become assault?
Mr. TIM JAYROE (Rockport Police Chief):
Yeah, frequently that's a difficult thing to determine because by
state law
a person has a right to discipline their children to a point, but not to the point that you cause serious bodily injury to a child.
SHAMLIAN:
Hillary
's mother has since divorced
Adams
and apologized for her role in the beating. For his part, Judge
Adams
insists his
daughter
wasn't hurt.
Judge ADAMS:
I lost my temper. I spanked her. Her mother was there. She wasn't hurt. It was a long time ago.
Voice:
Do you acknowledge that it's -- the beating was excessive, the spanking, the discipline?
Judge ADAMS:
No, I'm not going to get into any of that, OK?
SHAMLIAN:
Police say Judge
Adams
has left
Rockport
, and a note outside the courthouse informs his hearings have been canceled.
Judge ADAMS:
Well, then I ought to just keep beating you...
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Stop!
Judge ADAMS:
...and beating you!
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Stop!
SHAMLIAN:
A
daughter
's disclosure as a family's private troubles go public. Authorities tell
NBC News
that for a charge such as bodily injury to a child the statute of limitations is five years. This
video
is seven years old, so it's likely no charges will be filed. As for Judge
Adams
' seat here on the bench, county officials tell me that when the judge does return, for any cases involving children, a visiting judge is going to handle those at least for now.
Matt
:
LAUER:
Janet Shamlian
.
Thank you very much
.
Hillary
and
Hallie Adams
are here with us for an exclusive interview. Ladies, good morning to both of you.
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Good morning,
Matt.
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
Good morning.
LAUER:
We only showed a little portion of that tape. It goes on for seven very long minutes. We showed it in our newsroom yesterday to people who have seen an awful lot of tough things. They were universally upset by this. As you watch it seven years later,
Hillary
, what goes through your mind?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
It -- well, I've experienced everything from crying about it to almost just laughing. I've just experienced so many emotions, and sometimes it's like reliving it and sometimes it's like watching it from a completely third-person point of view. It's just -- it's really impossible to put all that into words.
LAUER:
Families in this country struggle with the dilemma of punishing and discipline all the time, to spank or not spank. I think the belt thing seems to cross a line. But was this something that happened regularly in your house? Is that why you set that camera up in the room that night?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
It did happen regularly for a period of time, and I could tell because of the pattern that things were escalating again, so I set up my
video camera
on my dresser and covered the
little red
light with a scarf. And about half an hour after I set the camera up, this happened, and it was amazing that I was able to capture such a thing.
LAUER:
Why did you wait seven years? You've had this
video
; you clearly are as upset about it today as you were back then. Why did you wait seven years, and why release it on the
Internet
as opposed to going to authorities with it?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Well, I waited seven years because back then I was still a minor and living under his roof, and releasing it then would have -- I don't know would have happened to me or my mother or my
little sister
. So waiting till today, seven years later just about, it has enabled me to pull away and be able to distance myself from the consequences.
LAUER:
You released a note accompanying the
video
, quote, "Judge
William Adams
is not fit to be anywhere near the
law system
if he can't even exercise fit judgment as a parent himself. Do not allow this man to ever be re-elected again." Now, he's not up for re-election right now. I don't think that comes for three years. So again, the timing of this is in question. Why?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
It just -- it was like I said in that previous
video
. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. It wasn't any, you know, huge happening or anything. I just -- I told him I had the
video
and he didn't seem to think anything of it and basically dared me to post it.
LAUER:
Do you want him to lose his job?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
I think wishing anybody to lose their job is not a really good thing to do, but...
LAUER:
But he -- because of a
public outcry
, there's a chance...
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Yeah.
LAUER:
...he may be forced to step down...
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
I know.
LAUER:
...even if no criminal charges are filed against him.
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
But his being fit for the job, that's something I really can't say that he is.
LAUER:
Hallie
, let me turn to you because you're in this tape.
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
Yes.
LAUER:
And we heard you in there...
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
Yes.
LAUER:
...saying, '
Turn over
. Take it like a 16-year-old girl.' I mean...
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
It's chilling.
LAUER:
...how does a mother -- how does a mother not only stand by and watch her husband do that to her
daughter
, but take part in it?
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
That's a good question and that's what I had to ask myself. I didn't know about the
video
until this -- well, until this past April, and this past weekend was the first time I saw it. And my answer to you and to the world is something that I've been hiding for a very long time as a
family secret
, and that's addiction. And my husband...
LAUER:
Addiction on your part or on...
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
No, sir.
LAUER:
On his part.
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
Yes, sir.
LAUER:
But still that doesn't tell me why you participated in it and watched it.
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
Because I lived in an environment of dysfunction and it steadily got worse. I tried to -- I did leave him when she was six months old, and he shamed me into going back and
I did my best
to make the marriage work.
LAUER:
So were you afraid for your own safety if you had stood up to this man, that you would...
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
I was completely brainwashed and controlled. I did every single thing that he did. When I leave the room, he's telling me what to say, what to do.
LAUER:
Are you angry at your mom?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
No. No, we're very close now. It -- she -- when I showed her the
video
, she started crying, hasn't stopped apologizing, and I forgive her because she knows everything that happened.
LAUER:
Judge
Adams
said on Wednesday, quote, "I haven't done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was
caught stealing
. I did lose my temper but I've since apologized. It looks worse than it is. There is a story. It will come out in
due time
." What is the story that you think he is referring to.
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
He -- well, I think he feared and didn't understand the
Internet
because the media that I wanted to obtain was overseas and at that time I couldn't have purchased it if I'd wanted to. So I think there's some controversy there.
LAUER:
But is there more that's going on in this family that I don't about.
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Well...
LAUER:
You're saying yes.
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
Mm-hmm.
LAUER:
What else is there
?
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
I think that the story that's going to come out in undue time in his mind is that he has projected his problem onto me. And for the entire four years since I left the marriage I've been abused and harassed through texts, emails. I've had to cut him off talking to him. And this past June I told him I wasn't texting him at all, I was never talking to him again, and he's threatened me to file for modification to take my younger
daughter
away from me over and over.
LAUER:
What do you --
what do you want
to see here,
Hillary
? Do you want him to get help?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Yes, exactly.
LAUER:
What is the outcome you're looking for?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
I think he's been punished enough just by seeing this go public like this and I think he just really needs help and rehabilitation. We need to get him counseling or something.
LAUER:
Do you have any regrets, by the way, of releasing this now, now that this has gone so public and so many people have watched it? Any regrets?
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
Well, I regret that some of my friends and some people close to me have kind of had trouble with this, and of course I regret that it's my own father. I'm having very mixed feelings about that. But at the same time, so many people are telling me that I did the right thing. So there have -- definitely different emotions.
LAUER:
Hillary
and
Hallie
Adams
.
Thank you so much
. We appreciate you both being here. We'll follow this story.
Ms. HILLARY ADAMS:
OK, thank you,
Matt.
Ms. HALLIE ADAMS:
Thank you.
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