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this bill is a political gimmick. this bill was cooked up a few miles from here, when, frankly, the
majority party
said, we're in trouble, the people don't like us, things aren't going well, how do we fix it? well, they came up with this gimmick.
>>
well, that was thousands democratic whip,
steny hoyer
, hitting republicans on the no
budget
, no pay deal passed wednesday. after a bruising election, a tough fight on the fiscal cliff, and with even more fiscal deadlines looming, can republicans regroup? joining me now, republican
tom price
, vice chair of the
budget committee
and on the front lines of this battle. congressman price, apologies for my voice. i'll try to keep my questions short.
>>
nice hearing your voice today, chuck, so good health to you.
>>
thank you, sir. is this a retreat? on one hand, it's a tactical -- looks like a
tactical retreat
. you guys had set a precedent, you thought, that any time you raised the debt ceiling, it would be $1 for spending cuts for every dollar in debt ceiling raised. that is not what you got this time. and you have put the focus on
senate democrats
, a political tactic, perhaps a very successful one. but is that really a
tactical retreat
?
>>
i don't think so at all, chuck. and i was curious to hear steny's comments about this being a gimmick. 86 democrats supported the bill that we had on the floor yesterday, the no
budget
, no pay, so clearly they didn't think it was a gimmick. this was a bipartisan effort. look, if you look at the goal, we've got to get our fiscal house in order, we've got to balance the
budget
, and in order to do that, the
senate
actually has to produce a
budget
, which they haven't done in nearly four years. the house has had budgets for each of the last two years that actually get to balance. so what we did, in this bill, is to say to the
senate
, look, you've got to do a
budget
. families do budgets, businesses do budgets, employers do budgets. the
senate
has not done a
budget
in nearly four years, so this is the challenge for them to do a
budget
, so that the
american people
can compare the
solutions
, the real
solutions
that we put on the table, and i believe the
solutions
that the democrats put on the table in the democrat-controlled
senate
, that the
american people
won't want. and that's the importance about this, so that we move forward in the new debt ceiling discussion, come may, and put in place real
solutions
.
>>
well, in a
perfect world
, the way congress works, then is, you guys have your
budget
, the
senate
has yours. there's a
conference committee
, and you hash it out, and you end up somewhere, maybe it's 60/40, the
senate
's way, maybe it's 60/40 your way, maybe it's 50/50. are you okay with that? there's been this assumption that house republicans will not support something that isn't, say, 75 or 80% of what they want.
>>
well, what we'll support real
solutions
, that solve the fiscal challenges that we've got. look, we still have 7.8% unemployment. we've had four straight years of trillion-dollar-plus deficits, annually. we've added over $5 trillion to the
national debt
in the past four years. we can't continue down this road and expect a vibrant economy and jobs being created, which is the real issue. we've got to get america back to work. and the way that you do that is with real
solutions
that address the spending challenges that we have, in an honest and sincere way.
>>
let's go back to the word "compromise." are you willing to compromise? when it comes to the three levers of budgetary power here, the wlous, the
senate
, and the house, you only control 33% of it. are you willing to take 33% of what you want?
>>
we're the
minority party
in washington, there's no doubt about it. we're willing to talk about whatever it is that actually gets us to a solution. the problem that we've had with the democrat-controlled
senate
in the last two years is they haven't produced a
budget
, so there's no way to even talk about a compromise, as you're working with the
senate
, because they don't even say what they believe, what they think we have to do to solve these challenges. so this is a big
step forward
to force the
senate
to do a
budget
.
>>
let me ask you about march and the expiration of funding for the government. are you going to be willing, then, to push that dlaeadline two months, to have it match the debt ceiling, to have both sides hammer out their budgets?
>>
no, i don't think so. i think what we need to do is to decrease spending at the level that we are right now, which is the $974 billion. that's what the spending reductions from the
budget
control act of august
2011
brought in place. continue on that vein until we see what the, again, the
senate
's plan is. april is the statutory deadline --
>>
so we could see a
budget
shutdown here, if there's no solution on even just extending temporarily funding of the government?
>>
we're not interested in a shutdown. if the president wants a shutdown -- again, you noted. we're the
minority party
in washington. if the
majority party
wants a shutdown, then we'll shut down. but that's not what we want. we want responsible spending, get our fiscal house in order, get on a responsible path to create jobs, and those are real
solutions
we'll put on the table.
>>
let me ask about your political future. are you thinking about challenging senator
saxby chambliss
in
2013
?
>>
that's all too premature at this point.
>>
you're not ruling it out.
>>
and making certain that we move forward from an economic standpoint in this country, put real
solutions
on the table, allow the
american people
to see the contrast between real
solutions
in the house and the
senate
.
>>
why aren't you immediately ruling it out?
>>
uh, why would i rule that out at this point? it's not -- it's not pertinent for the question of the day.
>>
but it's something you are open to, if you're drafted or something like that?
>>
look, i'm a physician. i spent 20 years taking care of patients. i never dreamed about going into politics. if opportunity knocks, then you have to
open the door
.
>>
do you think senator chambliss is conservative enough to represent the
state of georgia
?
>>
i think the two senators from the
state of georgia
have done a very good job representing the
state of georgia
.
>>
all right. i will have to leave it there. congressman
tom price
, vice chairman of the
budget committee
there, part of the republican leadership when it comes to these
budget
battles, thanks for coming on this morning.
>>
thanks, chuck.
>>
all right.
>>>
and a programming note for you, as i teased earlier, this sunday on nbc's "meet the press," congressman
paul ryan
sits down exclusively with
david gregory
. it's his first live television interview since the november election.
>>>
up next, new nuclear threats from
north korea
. plus, primary pressure after new jersey senator
frank lautenberg
suggested potential primary challenger mayor
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deserves a spanking. we'll tell you who's actually got the upper hand in a new poll.
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but first, today's trivia question. name the only former governor and lieutenant governor pairing to both be nominated for president. tweet me the answer @chucktoday and @dailyrundown. the first correct answer gets a follow thursday from us. the answer and more is coming up on "the daily rundown". we'll be right back.
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