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updated 4/21/2013 4:15:44 AM ET 2013-04-21T08:15:44

It's a terrible thing to have in common, but Oklahoma City, New York, and Boston are now linked through the shared experience of being targeted with an act of terror. It's an experience that will take some time to recover from, former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating explained on Jansing & Co. Wednesday.

It’s a terrible thing to have in common, but Oklahoma City, New York, and Boston are now linked through the shared experience of being targeted with an act of terror. It’s an experience that will take some time to recover from, former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating explained on Jansing & Co. Wednesday.

“It’s just the repeat horror show of one incident after another,” Keating, who resided over the state when Timothy McVeigh bombed the capital’s federal building, killing more than 150 and injuring hundreds more. 

He was in office, as governor, for just two weeks, when the federal building was bombed.

“The one thing we learned was, even today, 18 years after the fact, we are still providing counseling to a number of people, particularly first responders and law enforcement types,” Keating added. “There will be a need for that for some time,” Keating said. “The emotions don’t even show for months or years.”

There are still no suspects in the Boston marathon bombings. But federal officials are looking at thousands of photos and videos and sifting through 2,000 tips.

“Oklahoma City was searing in terms of the numbers–168 dead, nearly 900 wounded. It was and remains the largest case ever handled by the FBI,” Keating said. ”This one certainly was darkly similar: a bombing, innocents, celebrating America, just really an attack at the heart and soul of America.”

New York’s governor during the Sept. 11 attacks, George Pataki, insisted the country is safer today than it’s ever been and first responders and investigators are the best in the world.

“We’re an open society, we’re a free society… and that makes us vulnerable,” Pataki told Chris Jansing on Wednesday.

But those Sept. 11 attacks on New York City and the Pentagon shook the city and the nation to its core.

“After September 11th, it’s a new world,” the former governor said.

In the wake of the Boston bombing, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the city had beefed up its security.

“We won’t let the attack in Boston keep us from our normal daily routines or enjoying the city that we love and that we so painstakingly built….Let’s not forget what happened in the past and let’s prepare for the future,” Bloomberg said at a news conference.

Watch Chris Jansing’s interview with former New York Governor George Pataki below: 

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    >> in former oklahoma governor , frank keating . he was governor when the oklahoma city building was bombed, also a former fbi agent, a former prosecutor and head of the atf, so obviously someone with a unique perspective on all of this. good morning.

    >> good morning, chris.

    >> it's probably hard for you to believe it's been almost 18 years to the day since the oklahoma city bombing and i'm wondering when you heard about what happened here, what went through your mind?

    >> you know, it is really sad and you've noted this, is just the repeat horror show of one incident after another from a 17-year-old shooting a child in the face to a theatre killing and college campus killings. oklahoma city was searing in terms of the numbers. 168 dead. nearly 900 wounded. it was and remains the largest case ever handle led by the fbi . i think brilliantly executed by the way and i'm not trying to wave the flag at my former organization, but i think it was very, very well handled. this one was darkly similar. bombing, innocence, celebrating america. it just, an attack really at the heart and the soul of the country.

    >> and just to remind folks who don't remember, right after the oklahomaty bombings, that really alert state trooper noticed a car driving by without a license plate , pulled him over and it turned out to be timothy mcveigh although it took a couple of days for law enforcement to put it together.

    >> the boston police department was one of the early departments to be trained at the oklahoma city , the terrorism institute for in oklahoma city . i think the boston pd is extreme extremely well led and very sophisticated. the fbi has a field office in boston . you couldn't have a better law enforcement investigative community there. obviously, the good thing and i think mr. van zandt focused on it, is the fact that you had an opportunity hopefully to observe a lot of things a as a result of cameras. that comment about the bomb dogs coming in apparently before the placement of these devices. if each of them are 20 pounds apiece, that's a pretty burly person could handle that. may have been two people like tim mcveigh and one of his associates in oak city . they need a lucky break . state trooper who saw that broken license plate , but we've got to get to the bottom of it. we will and whoever's responsible will be tried and convicted and i think mercifully, hopefully, if they are responsible for this horrific act, will be execute d as we did tim mcveigh .

    >> do you think as clint just sukted, this may well will a timothy mcveigh type?

    >> it's really hard to say. i'm one who thinks and this is not a cynical statement, but i think most people act and react with a motive. and this could be a situation where someone's trying to get even with the boston marathon . real simple motive. it could be someone who is mad at boston , mad at the police department , mad at runners. who knows. but that's what investigators do. they go through the international connection potentially, the domestic potential, obviously in the case of tim mcveigh , it was to get even for the branch di individual yan compound, the attack there by atf, fbi , some years before to get even. so, that was the motive and hopefully, this investigation find a motive and find the responsible parties and quickly this this behind us. but it's just a horror show . seems like every week, something horrific is happening and it's very sad.

    >> and the flip side is how amazingly so many people responded in that moment and since then and you got high marks, 17, 18 years ago for being instrumental in helping oklahoma city recover. one of the things you did is raet created a trust fund to pay for funerals, to help families. are there things you learned back then through that hard won experience, governor, that you think could help the people of boston even so soon after this terrible tragedy?

    >> i think boston has shown very good leadership from the police chief to the agent in charge to the fbi , the governor. that's very important. to be reassuring. one of the suggestions i would have is to have a memorial service , religious service , focus in on the frayed and wounded. spiritually. you're going to have that tomorrow apparently and i think that's a very good thing. but the one thing we learned, chris, was that even today, 18 years after the fact, we are still providing counseling to a number of people, particularly first responders and law enforcement types, there will be a need for that for some time. and what's also important since there are people from all over the united states who participated, to have the boston authorities, whatever institution they'll establish there to be in touch with these people, to help them through this very difficult process. but frequently, the emotions don't even show for months or years and the authorities here need to be focused on the need to provide those counseling services, support, hand holding for quite some time, unfortunately.

    >> former governor frank keating , we always appreciate you coming on the program. thank you so

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