updated 7/30/2013 12:47:54 PM ET 2013-07-30T16:47:54

Don’t count Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee on board with GOP threats to shut down the government if the president’s health care plan isn’t defunded pronto.

Don’t count Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee on board with GOP threats to shut down the government if the president’s health care plan isn’t defunded pronto.

“It’s a silly effort, and what people are really saying who are behind that effort is that we don’t have the courage to roll up our sleeves and deal with real deficit reductions and spending decisions,” Corker said on Tuesday’s The Daily Rundown.

“We want to take ourselves out of the debate and act like we are being principled to the American people by saying ‘if there’s one dime of funding for Obamacare, we’re not going to vote for the [continuing resolution],’” said Corker. “I don’t look at that as very courageous.”

Corker said both he and the public would “see through it and understand what’s really taking place” by taking themselves out of the debate.

Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah last week said he’d threaten to shut down the government unless Obamacare was fully defunded, and said other conservative senators, including Ted Cruz of Texas and Marco Rubio of Florida, would join him.

Other Republicans have echoed Corker in their concerns. Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma said the “strategy that has been laid out is a good way for Republicans to lose the House.” And Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma, a former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said on Monday’s NOW with Alex Wagner that such a move would be a “suicidal political tactic.”

Corker, the former Chattanooga mayor, said he didn’t know enough yet about the President Obama’s anticipated plan he’ll unveil in Corker’s hometown this afternoon to cut corporate tax rates in exchange for more job investments. But Corker, who’s been open to reaching across the aisle before and has a good relationship with the president, said did very briefly talk with White House chief of staff Denis McDonough this morning, though he said many Republicans would still be skeptical of anything that raised taxes.

“It would have to be a massive deal for any kind of Republican to look at revenues as part of this,” said Corker.

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    >> the period is extending the olive branch . will they take it and watch for a new version. bob corker of tennessee is a former mayor of chattanooga, ranking member of foreign relations and a golfing partner of the president a couple months ago. one of the republicans on more friend low terms with the president. good morning.

    >> how are you? good to be with you.

    >> i want to ask this new proposal that you are seeing and hearing for the first time this morning about separating out and pursuing tax reform and pursuing the revenue and putting it towards the spending programs. first reaction?

    >> i don't know any details. i had a brief conversation with dennis, the chief of staff and i don't know any details. we can talk more and he has been on a loose group of sounding like the senators with the white house and as i learned more, i will be able to respond. i wont really hear them and i don't know enough to respond.

    >> philosophically, i am sure you will respond that produce boy text reform and put into lowering rates and ef dit. could you be open to the idea that included using new revenue?

    >> there two paths. one is we have the sequester coming up and i know there is no republican that i'm aware of that will want to use tax revenues that deal with cuts. there is an opportunity for us to substitute mandatory cuts and reforms for those discretionary cut that some think are too large. the mandatory reductions for discretionary cuts. revenues, again i have no idea. it would have to be a massive deal for any kind of republican to hock at revenues as part of this. if you are looking at a larger deal, i haven't seen the scope, but the deal sequester, no one would be interested.

    >> it doesn't sound like i might have want supered it that if there were rev nows created, you would want to see it used for sequester some to deal with that?

    >> no, no. it depends on what we are talking about. if we are only dealing with sequester, i don't know of any republican who wants to do anything other than substitute for discretionary reduction. we end up with the same reduction and they are better and it makes our country smaller. on the revenue piece, the only way that republicans will be willing to lock at rev nows for anything. it would be if there was transpoermative that tops in entitlement. we kpanyhow they had long-term solvency. i am getting called on the interview.

    >> fair enough.

    >> i had a 30 second conversation with dennis this morning. i know something is coming out. if you will, i would like to respond to the programs with knowledge and i really just don't have an idea what that they are uk talking about.

    >> people want to respond before they have that. how dare you want more information. i want to move to the debate going on in your party and having to do with how the debt ceiling negotiation and sequester negotiations and whether funding should be used as a bargaining chip. what say you?

    >> it's a silly effort and people behind that is we don't have the courage to dole with real deficit retukzs. we want to take ourselves out of the debit and act like we are being principaled. we are not going to vote for the cr. it is very courageous. most of us see through it and realize they are just taking themselves out of the debit. woe have an opportunity to get our count row right as it relates to tiskal issues. we have taken big steps and when people take themselves out of the game, they understand what's taking place.

    >> there was a report that quoted you using colorful language when it came to a meeting with the most recent deal to avert the so-called nuclear option have having to do with a certain presidential appointee and disagreements. when you quoted directly about how much he was involved and can you enlighten us?

    >> it was a moment where you think you know i was in a rough and tumble business. built shopping centers all-around in my former life, there were words that express better what one feels than others. at that moment, i did use colorful language. the point was well-taken and i am probably closer to leader mcconnell. i felt that things needed to be straightened out.

    >> was it a coop in egypt?

    >> it's okay that we don't address what it was for a period of time. preponderan i think we need to understand how calling it something and the momentum in one direction or another. i think our country needs to have a common influence on what's happening in egypt. we are a nation of laws and i think we need to go ahead and address this in the appropriate way with legislation. i do think that continues as we off along pushing them towards the democratic side as quick le as possible. that's what we node to do with our aid and influence.

    >> bob corker , former mayor of chattanooga in tennessee. thanks if are coming on. when the


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