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Show: POLITICS NATION

Date: July 13, 2015

Guest: Ed Rendell, Janet Murguia Erika Andiola; Gwen Moore

REV. AL SHARPTON, MSNBC HOST:  Tonight on "Politics Nation" Scott Walker is

in, but can he out plank the Donald? 

Trump`s wild weekend is big trouble for the GOP as Walker tries to grab the

spotlight. 

And Hillary Clinton comes out swinging calling out Republicans by name. 

We`ll tell you which ones got hit and which ones didn`t. 

Also, President Obama making a key move on criminal justice righting wrongs

and changing lives.  It`s the start of something big. 

Welcome to "Politics Nation." 

We`re just moments away from Wisconsin governor Scott Walker making it

official.  He`s running for president in 2016.  Governor Walker is the 15th

Republican candidate to enter the race but he`s also part of a more

exclusive club.  He`s one on the list of Republicans that Hillary Clinton

is calling out by name.  Today she presented her economic agenda and toy in

to Walker and others in the GOP`s top tier. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:  Republican governors like

Scott Walker have made their names stomping on workers` rights.  Take a

good look at their plans.  Senator Rubio`s would cut taxes for households

making around $3 million a year by almost $240,000.  You may have heard

Governor Bush say last week that Americans just need to work longer hours. 

Well, he must not have bet very many American workers.  They don`t need a

lecture.  They need a raise. 

(APPLAUSE AND CHEERS)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SHARPTON:  Clinton going directly after the three candidates, thought to

have the best shot at winning the GOP nomination.  Right now, those three

candidates are struggling to get attention because Donald Trump slumped up

all the energy from the Republican base. 

A new national poll put Trump at second place in the GOP primary, less than

one percent behind Jeb Bush, essentially a dead heat.  And this weekend

huge crowds turned out for his rambling speeches. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:  You know, I may make money

running for president.  It is very entrusting. 

And the polls just come out and I`m tied with Jeb Bush and I said that`s

too bad.  How can I be tied with this guy?  He`s terrible. 

I told you, I went to the warden school of finance.  I was like I`m like a

really smart person. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SHARPTON:  Good to know.  But love that side show dominates the GOP race,

Hillary Clinton is talking about real issues. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CLINTON:  Finding economic challenge of our time is clear.  We must raise

incomes for hard-working Americans so they can afford a middle class life. 

That will be my mission from the first day I`m president to the last. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SHARPTON:  That`s her mission.  The GOP`s mission, getting voters to pay

attention to anyone besides Donald Trump. 

MSNBC`s Kasie Hunt is live in Wisconsin for Governor Walker`s announcement,

also with me is former governor and former DNC chairman Ed Rendell, and

MSNBC`s Abby Huntsman. 

Thank you-all for being here. 

ABBY HUNTSMAN, MSNBC HOST, THE CYCLE:  Thanks, Rev. 

ED RENDELL, FORMER PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR:  My pleasure, Rev. 

SHARPTON:  Kasie, Walker is jumping in the race when Donald Trump most

talked about man in the GOP.  How can he compete for attention? 

KASIE HUNT, MSNBC Political Correspondent: Well, Reverend, I think it

starts here with this announcement.  This is a chance for Scott Walker to

essentially push the reset button a little bit to, you know, take a step

out front here.  He came in strong earlier this year, gave a speech in Iowa

that got a lot of notice but he stumbled a little bit in the interviewing

time. 

And I think when you do talk about Donald Trump, you`re right, that he`s

sucking up the oxygen on the Republican side right now.  And it is possible

that that could continue in the debate on August 6th that at this point

doesn`t sound like they found Republican officials so sound anyway to keep

him off of that debate stage.  Guess we`ll see if that changes in the next

couple weeks.  But that is going to be the challenge, not just for Scott

Walker but for every Republican candidate who is standing up there on the

stage with Trump.  How to handle him, how to take him on, how much

(INAUDIBLE) to give him.  Whether or not stepping back and away from that

as the smart play or taking him on straight up.  And I think that whichever

candidate manages to take him up on appropriately if in fact they gone that

stage.  It is going to be the key catch. 

SHARPTON:  Governor, is it rough timing for Walker to be jumping while

Donald Trump has dominated and taken up a lot of the energy really sucked

up all the air in the room right now in the GOP primary process. 

RENDELL:  Sure, it`s a difficult time to make the announcement.  But he has

to make his announcement before August 6th so he gets in the debate on FOX. 

That`s number one.  But number two, I still don`t believe, Rev., that

Donald Trump is going to be a factor come next February and March in the

GOP and Scott Walker --

SHARPTON:  You do not think he`ll be a factor come next February? 

RENDELL:  I don`t.  I don`t. 

SHARPTON:  Governor, he went to Warden.  He`s a smart guy.  I mean, who

does that?  Who tells people that?

RENDELL:  As Penn grad, you know, I`m shaky about that. 

HUNTSMAN:  I`m a Penn grad, too, and I might -- might. 

SHARPTON:  Who does that, Abby?  Go ahead, I`m sorry. 

RENDELL:  Well, he`s a smart guy and you can`t under rate him.  But I think

that he`s the, he`s making an impact but I don`t think unless he turns in a

great performance on the 6th.  And by a great performance, I mean, sounds

presidential, more than just the angry guy.  The angry guy will get him

just so far.  And Scott Walker has a calling card.  He can say Donald Trump

says he wants to be the tough guy and stand up for America, well I did it

GOP voters.  I did it.  I stood up to the unions.  I took them on and I won

not only once but twice and three times, I won. 

SHARPTON:  Is that his strategy, Abby, to say I`m the guy that`s actually

done it and I have done it as a chief executive?  Is that Walker`s strategy

that would be hard for Trump to answer? 

HUNTSMAN:  Well, going up against Trump, that really is his only strategy

because they are appealing for the same voters in Iowa.  And so far, Scott

Walker is doing well in Iowa.  Donald Trump is also doing well but they are

very much have similar messages against the government.  Problem is Donald

Trump says it in a way with passion and so much energy and he says some

things that folks on the far right think but don`t necessarily always say

and he`s out there doing it.  So I do think that`s his only strategy in

that sense. 

But look, Scott Walker as the governor was saying has someone to speak to. 

He can say I`m a fighter.  I won three races in the past four years, one of

those being a recall election against unions.  I fought against the elite

liberal media and a lot of it and I came out on top of that.  He could say

I won that, so he`s probably going to tout that in the speech in just a few

minutes and throughout the campaign is my guess. 

SHARPTON:  Now, Donald Trump talked a lot this weekend about his silent

majority and saying that he has a silent majority of supporters and listen

to this. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP:  It`s a term that I haven`t heard for years, but I really think it

applies now more than maybe ever before, and that`s the term the silent

majority.  Have you-all heard that?  But the silent majority is back and

we`re going to take the country back. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SHARPTON:  I mean, there is no way the majority of the country agrees with

this governor. 

RENDELL:  No, the silent majority is 15 percent of Republican voters. 

HUNTSMAN:  And it`s on the other side, Governor.  It is not the side he`s

taking about. 

SHARPTON:  Right. 

RENDELL:  Well, and interestingly, Rev., what do you think the voters, GOP

voters, in Iowa and New Hampshire are going to think when they learn that

Donald contributed to Hillary Clinton, contributed to Harry Reid,

contributed to Nancy Pelosi?  Do you think that`s going to be a problem for

him? 

SHARPTON:  Well, I think that is a valid point, Abby, when if they bring up

his contributions to Clinton and Pelosi and others while Scott Walker is

saying I stood up in four of the unions and fought everybody, beat them

down.  This guy plays all sides for business interest.  That becomes a

little difficult for Trump. 

HUNTSMAN:  Not just sad but meet the press did a great segment on Sunday,

just comparing where he stood on the issues a few years ago.  The complete

opposite of where he is saying is now.  We have been talking about Hillary

Clinton saying she was someone that he really liked and could potentially

vote for.  Now, we hear what he`s saying about her.  He was saying that he

has for universal health care at one point.  So I think Scott Walker

certainly has the advantage in terms of standing up for what he believes

and being consistent on the issues up until now. 

SHARPTON:  Well, I mean, he just does that. 

HUNTSMAN:  And he loves it. 

SHARPTON:  He loves it to everybody.  I mean, he says I`m a great guy and

good to get along with but I`m a racist and a con man.  So I mean, you

know, welcome to the club.  Everybody he has bearing a fuse, caught on who

is talking to. 

Again, we`re waiting this announcement from Wisconsin governor Scott Walker

entering the 2016 presidential race.  While he`s one of the last candidates

to jump in, Governor Walker had a lot of experience winning.  Winning

elections that is.  Racking up 12 victories in just 15 years.  The only

democrat to ever beat Scott Walker is my next guest. 

Joining me now is Congresswoman Gwen Moore, Democrat of Wisconsin.  She

beat Governor Walker in a state assembly race in 1990, the last time he

lost an election. 

Congresswoman Moore, thank you for being here. 

REP. GWEN MOORE (D), WISCONSIN:  Thanks for having me, Reverend Al. 

SHARPTON:  Now, what kind of candidate is Governor Walker? 

MOORE:  Well, I can tell you that, you know, when he ran against me, it was

sort of a rehearsal for his hero, Ronald Reagan and the whole Lee act water

dog whistle wedge issue kind of candidate.  He thought that even though it

was the democratic district we were running in, it was majority white.  And

so, he thought that he could best me by doing that.  But he lost that race,

but he continued to refine that strategy of, you know, harkening to urban

violence and crime and we`ve got to drug test food stamp recipients and all

kinds of wedge issues that would keep him in the limelight. 

SHARPTON:  Now let`s talk about some of his record as governor of

Wisconsin.  He signed the infamous anti-union right to work legislation,

planned a 20-week abortion ban, refused the Medicaid expansion and signed

voter ID restriction.  You saw this firsthand.  Is this what he wants to

bring to the rest of the country, congresswoman? 

MOORE:  You know, it`s really hard to say what he wants to bring.  You

know, Scott Walker sells out to the highest bidder.  When you talk about

anti-union legislation, I want to talk to you about how that happened.  He

started out by ending the collective bargaining rights of public workers,

telling all the Joe the plumbers if you will, that I`m not going to do it

to the private male-oriented unions, just to teachers and public workers. 

As soon as he was reelected, as soon as he was reelected, he did the

conscionable to these guys.  He threw them under the bus.  We got right to

work.  We got ending the prevailing wages.  We got to an end to guaranteed

24-hour work.  He weakened these worker laws after campaigning and saying

that he wouldn`t do that.  So he can`t be trusted. 

We don`t know what he wants.  I mean, most presidents of any party would

want to improve public education, for example, and he destroyed public

education for Wisconsin taking yet another $250 million out of our flag

ship university system, as well as returning the entire state into a

voucher program. 

SHARPTON:  So let me read another excerpt from Governor Walker`s speech

that he plans to say.  I`m quoting the speech.  Quote, "government that is

closest to the people is usually the best.  This is why we should move

power and money out of Washington and send it back to our state." 

Congresswoman, what`s he really saying here? 

MOORE:  I have no idea what he is saying because we have $800 million from

the federal government for high-speed rail and he sent it back to

Washington.  Wisconsin is a donor state.  He did not take the medicate

expansion, as you mentioned earlier --

SHARPTON:  So he`s saying take the money out of Washington but he wouldn`t

take Medicaid expansion and he sent the high rail money back to Washington? 

MOORE:  Exactly.  We got at least a $250 million of our structural deficit

is because he wouldn`t take that Medicaid expansion.  I have no idea, and

no one has any idea, what he would do.  He flip-flops on everything.  He

has thrown everybody under the bus.  Kids, the elderly, women, he`s going

to sign a 20-week abortion ban, teachers, public unions, now private

unions, he`s really our environment.  He has really, really ruined the

state of Wisconsin.  You know, he should be running but not for president. 

SHARPTON:  But Abby, notwithstanding those constituents that he`ll clearly

have a problem with if he makes it to general, looking at the GO politics,

he is in the Midwest right next door to Iowa.  Give me the GO political map

he could be looking at toward really looking at the nomination. 

HUNTSMAN:  He`s doing well there.  I mean, all the things she mentioned is

everything that these voters in Iowa, the Republican voters there in early

primaries, that`s that they are wanting to hear and that is what exactly

what he`s going to say in a speech in a few moments.  You mentioned on day

one he`s going to repeal Obamacare.  He is going to protect guns.  He is

going to do away with Planned Parenthood.  He is going to enforce ID into

voting ballot, right? 

SHARPTON:  This is all in the speech tonight. 

HUNTSMAN:  All speech tonight.  And he comes out very quickly. 

SHARPTON:  So he`s going way to the right? 

HUNTSMAN:  He is and he is positions himself as the conservative

alternative to Jeb Bush because he knows ultimately it could very well come

down to an establishment player like Jeb Bush and then someone who is a

conservative who is fighting for the far right and he can say look, time

and time again, the party is put up the establishment candidate.  And look

where that has gotten us. 

I have continued to fight for you, I won that repeal election based off

unions alone.  I`m your fighter, I can do this and not going to waiver on

that.  He changed his position on immigration but I will say he has been

open and honest about it saying I did changed my mind.  I have flipped but

I have changed my opinion on it.  So while he`s being honest, it will be

interesting to see that message appeals beyond just Iowa, beyond just the

early primary stage into a general election. 

SHARPTON:  Now, governor, you are one of the most savvy political leaders

and we see Scott Walker coming out.  He`s just been introduced.  He`s

coming out shaking hands in short sleeves, no jacket, no tie, looking like

just everybody`s friend regular guy.  Very, very choreographed with I`m the

guy in the Midwest in kind of look and all of this is thought out.  None of

this is that he ran out the office and forgot his jacket.  This is all well

thought out of this is the image he want to give America of he is as he

announces. 

And he is taking his time, shook a few hands, not he is hugging his family. 

He does not appear rushed or ruffled and again a very important part of

running for president.  You got to act like you`re measured, that you are

in-charge.  It should not rattled, you`re not anxious.  So that`s sure part

of how you advice and so far he`s kind of pulling it off.  We will see

where he goes in the speech. 

A lot of this, Abby, in terms of the speech he`s on the far right wanted to

be the far right alternative to Bush, but he`s got to deal with the

theatrics of a Donald Trump.  He has got to deal where Rubio in a crew.  So

the question is, can he be fiery without looking extreme and like this all

the way over there with them in terms of being a flame thrower but at the

same time, he can`t be boring. 

HUNTSMAN:  And also relatable.  And I think that`s we are about see now. 

He is going to tell us of growing up and why he is the man he is today,

that he worked at McDonalds to pay for ultimately going for college.  He

didn`t up graduating for college.  I think he is about to speak now, Rev. 

SHARPTON:  He didn`t go to Dartmouth. 

HUNTSMAN:  He didn`t graduate.  He didn`t come to Harvard, that`s exactly

right.  You hear we want Trump in the audience which is quite fascinating. 

GOV. SCOTT WALKER (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:  I love America. 

You know, as kids, my brother David and I used to love to go over and visit

one of our neighbors by the name of Claire Condor (ph).  Mr. Condor (ph)

was a legend in our small town.  You see, he had served our country in

World War I and World War II. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  Then like so many other veterans, he came back and served his

community and over the years we used to love to see him at the concession

stand at legion baseball.  He helped out in the church and he was a leader

in my Boy Scout troop.  That I can remember over the years before Memorial

Day, he would organize me and the other scouts as we would go through and

put up flags on the graves of the fallen. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  It was impossible to be around Mr. Condor (ph) and I share his

love for God and country.  You know, I think back 30 years ago Mr. Condor

(ph) and his American legion post helped me attend a program called

(INAUDIBLE) and it was there that I learned about state and local

government.  You know, along the way it was interesting, I got the chance

to be selected to represent Wisconsin on a program in Washington D.C.

called boy`s nation.   And there I met another veteran, Vietnam veteran

from Georgia by the name of Bob Turner. 

Now, Bob and the other veterans that ran that program not only taught us

about the federal governments and national elections, they shared their

love for our country, and they inspired within me the importance of public

service when it comes to defending our liberties.  Veterans like that

remind me that what makes America great is the fact that America is a can

do kind of country, unfortunately, we have a government in Washington that

can`t quite seem to get the job done. 

You know Washington or as I call it 68 square miles surrounded by reality,

well the good news is it is not too late.  We can turn things around. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  To do that, we need new fresh leadership, leadership with big,

bold ideas from outside of Washington.  The kind of leadership that knows

how to get things done like we`ve done here in Wisconsin. 

Since I`ve been governor, we took on the unions and we won.  We lowered

taxes by $2 billion on individuals, on employers and property owners,

property taxes today are lower than they were four years ago.  How many

other governments can say that? 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  Since I`ve been governor, we passed lawsuit reform and regulatory

reform.  We defunded Planned Parenthood and passed prolife legislation. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  We enacted castle doctor and concealed carry so we can protect

ourselves, our families and our properties. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  And we now require a photo id to vote in this state. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  If our reforms can work in a blue state like Wisconsin, they can

work anywhere in America.  As I travel this country, I got to tell you,

people say they are frustrated with politicians telling people who they are

against and who they are against.  America is one of all for something and

for someone so continue.  So tonight, let me tell you what I`m for. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  I`m for reform, growth, safety, I`m for transferring power from

Washington into hard-working taxpayers and states across the country. 

That`s real reform. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  I`m for building an economy that allows everyone to live their

piece of the American dream.  That`s pro-growth.  And I`m for protecting

our children and grandchildren from radical Islamic terrorism in the world. 

That`s true safety. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  My record shows that I know how to fight and win.  Now more than

ever America needs a president who will fight and win for America. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  So first, so first, let me tell you why I`m for real reform in

Washington.  You see our big bold reforms here in Wisconsin took the power

out of the hands of the big government special interest and put them firmly

into the hands of the hard-working taxpayers.  Today, today in this state,

people who are actually elected by local property taxpayers literally run

our schools and that means we got rid of things like seniority and tenure. 

That means we can hire and fire based on merit and pay based on performance

and put the best and the brightest in our classrooms. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  Now think about that, four years later graduation rates are up,

third grade reading scores are higher and Wisconsin`s ACT score are now

second best in the country.  Our reforms work. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  That just goes to show that government closest to the people is

generally the best, which is precisely why we need to take power and money

out of Washington and send it back to our state in key areas like Medicaid

and transportation and workforce evolvement and education. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  Sadly, though, sadly, though, Washington seems to think that

success is measured by how many people are dependent on the government. 

We, we measure success by just the opposite, by how many people are no

longer dependent on the government. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  We understand that true freedom of prosperity do not come from the

mighty hands of the government,  They come from empowering that control

their owned lives and their own destinies to the dignity that is born of

work, of work, that`s what we stand for. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  Now, as a kid my first job was washing dishes and I moved up to

the big time, I started flipping hamburgers in high school at McDonalds to

save up for college.  My dad who you heard before was a small town preacher

and my mom was a part-time secretary and bookkeeper.  My grandparents were

farmers who didn`t have in ground plumbing until my mom went to junior high

school.  My mom`s dad was a machinist for 42 years, (INAUDIBLE) down tin

Rockford, Illinois.  My brother and I had thought that throughout the years

and we realized we didn`t inherit fame or fortune from our family.  We got

the belief if you work hard and play by the rules, you can do and be

anything. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  That`s right.  You see, that`s the American dream and that is

worth fighting for.  When we help people, adults are able to work,

transition from government dependents to true independents, we help more

people live that piece of the American dream.  We have a program right here

in Wisconsin that requires people to be signed up for one of our

employability programs, a job training program before they can get a

welfare check.  And now, as of the budget I just signed, we make the same

requirement to make sure people can pass a drug test before they get it. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  That`s right.  Now you can only imagine what the defenders in the

status quo thought when I proposed those reforms.  They said I was making

it harder to get government assistance.  My reply, no I`m making it easier

to get a job and isn`t that what it`s all about? 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  Now you know, strong families are important in this role, as well. 

You see, we know that children are raised in a household with both parents

involved are more likely to finish school, to get a good job and to live a

life free of government dependence.  We need a federal government that will

actually stand up and support strong families by getting rid of the

marriage penalty, by getting rid of policies, welfare policies that make it

hard for fathers to play an active role in the lives of their children.  We

need to encourage families.  I know thinking about my own family, I know

for me, both my parents were so important for David and me as we grow up as

kids.  Now, for that, we try to be good role models for Matt and Alex and

they turn out pretty well, haven`t they are pretty impressive as lot. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER:  We are so proud of them.  And I think about that, I think about

Matt and I think about Alex and I think about all the others in their

generation.  And for them, I want them to grow up any more free and prosper

this country.  That`s really about the American dream, though. 

(APPLAUSE)

WALKER: Now, to ensure that prosperity, we need to be for a pro-growth

economic plan that enables our individuals and our families to earn, to

save, and to achieve their piece of the American dream.  There is a real

contest out there.  Instead of the top down government knows the best

approach that you hear from so many in Washington, we need to build the

economy from the ground up in a way that`s new and fresh or dynamic that

says as long as you don`t violate the health and safety of your neighbor,

go out and start your own career, build your own business, live your own

life. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

You see, that`s freedom, the kind of freedom that`s a corner stone of the

American dream and so we`ve got a plan to help more people live that dream,

a plan that will help more people create more jobs and higher wages and you

know what it starts with?  We need to repeal ObamaCare once and for all. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We need to repeal the so-called Affordable Care Act and put patients and

families back in charge of their healthcare decisions, not the federal

government.  Many of you know here know when I first became governor, I

literally allowed the states to join the federal lawsuit against ObamaCare

on my very first day.  We need a president who on the first day will call

on the Congress to once and for all repeal ObamaCare entirely. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Then we need to reign in the out of control federal regulations that are

like a blanket on the nation`s economy.  Sure.  But let`s get rid of the

bureaucratic red tape.  As governor, I`ll call for a moratorium on a new

regulations, we can do the same in Washington and then we can repeal all

the other bad Obama regulations to get this economy going again. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Next we need a put in place in all above energy policy that says we`re

going to use the abundance of what God has given us here in America and on

this continents.  You know, that`s right. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We are an energy-rich country and we can literally start refueling our

economic recovery.  We need a president who on day one will improve the

keystone pipeline. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

That`s right, approve that pipeline and put in place a plan to level the

playing field for all their forms of energy.  And then we need to help

people get the education and the skills that they need to succeed because

we know if we do that, we can help people find careers that pay more than

the minimum wage.  Here in Wisconsin we reform public education and we

provide for more quality choices, quality choices for families because you

see I trust families and I thrust parents to make the right decision for

their children.  I believe -- 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

I believe that every child, every child regardless of zip code or

background or what their parents does for a living, I believe that every

child deserves access to a great education, to a nutritional public or a

charter, or a choice, or a private or a virtual or a home school education,

every child deserves access to the a great education. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

That`s why I want to work and you know, what, along with that, I want to

make sure we have high standards but those standards should be set at the

local level.  No common core, no nationwide scoreboard. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

That`s why I`ll work so hard to take power and money out of Washington and

send it back to our states and our schools where it`s more effective, and

more efficient and more accountable to the American people. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Now, think about this, if you`re to take a dollar out of your purse or your

wallet, where would you rather spent that?  In Washington or your child`s

school?  I`d rather spent it to child`s school and if you give me the

chance, we`ll going to send those dollars back to help your child at their

school. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

And then -- and then we need to lower the burden on our taxpayer so you can

keep more of your hard earned dollar. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We need to do that for individuals -- we need to do that for individuals as

well as job traders because we may need to make our job traders competitive

again in the world so they can bring more jobs back from overseas, to put

more our fellow Americans back to work right here in America. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

And you know what?  We can do it.  We can do it because we did it in

Wisconsin and we can do it in Washington. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Now, some people wonder why I spent so much time focus on lowering the tax

-- here and I want to do it in Washington.  Well, some of you know that

Tonette and I like the shop at Kohl`s.  Right?  So, over the years I`ve

learned if I`m going buy a new shirt, I go to the rack that says it was

29.99 and now and it`s 19.99 and then we go up to the cash register and we

out the insert from the Sunday newspaper, that are scratch out one there. 

Or maybe we got that flier back at home, right, where you get 15 or 20 or

if you`re really lucky, 30 percent off, right?  You know what I`m talking

about. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

And then as the clerk is ringing it up, Tonette scoops into her purse and

pulls out some of that Kohl`s cash and next thing you know, they are paying

me to buy the shirt, right? 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We`re not really but seems like it.  Right?  So, how does a great company

like Kohl`s make money?  They make it off volume.  Right?  So, they could

charge a higher price and a few of you can afford it, but they lower the

price, broaden the base and they make more money off of value.  That`s why

I think about your money, the taxpayer`s money.  The government can charge

you a higher rate and some of us could afford it but if you lower the rate,

broaden the base, we expand the volume of people who can participate in the

economy. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Years ago we used to call that a similar plan was successful under

President Ronald Reagan.  And back then, we used to call out the laugher

curve.  Today I call up the Kohl`s curve because I believe you can spend

your money far better than the federal government and when we do, the

economy will get a whole lot better. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

To prosper we need to live in a safe and stable world.  That`s why I`m for

true safety.  The commander-in-chief has a sacred duty to protect the

American people.  In my lifetime, the best president when it comes to

national security and foreign policy was a governor from California.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Under his leadership we rebuilt the military.  We stood up for our allies. 

We stood up to our enemies and without apology, we stood for American

values. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

That led to one of the most peaceful times in modern American history. 

Sadly today under the Clinton or under the Obama Clinton doctrine, America

is leading from behind and that has us headed towards a disaster.  Think

about this.  We have a president, a president who drew a line in the sand

and allowed it to be crossed.  A president who called ISIS the jayvee

squad, Yemen a success story.  And Iran, a place we can do business with. 

Iran.  Think about that.  When my brother David and I were kids, I can

still remember we use to tie ribbons around the trees in front of our house

during the 400 and 44 days that Iran held 52 Americans hostage.  One of

those hostages was Kevin Hermaning (ph) who grew up down the way in Oak

Creek.  Kevin was the youngest of the hostages, a marine who have just been

assigned to serve at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.  Kevin Hermaning is here

today with us. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Kevin knows that Iran is not a place to do business with.  You see, Iran

hasn`t changed much since the day he and the other hostages were released

on President Reagan`s first day in office.  Looking ahead, we need to

terminate the bad deal with Iran on the very first day in office. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We need to terminate that deal on the first day in office.  Put in place

crippling economic sanctions in Iran and convince our allies to do exactly

the same thing. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Earlier this year, President Obama declared, he proclaims that the greatest

threat to future generations is global warming, climate change.  Well, Mr.

President, I respectfully disagree.  The greatest threat to future

generations is radical Islamic terrorism and we need to do something about

it. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We can start by lifting the political restrictions on our military

personnel already in Iraq and empower them to help our clerk and sunny

allies reclaim the territory taken by ISIS because, you know what?  On

behalf of your children and mine, I would rather take the fight to them

instead of wait until they bring the fight to us. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We need to acknowledge that Israel is an ally and start treating Israel

like an ally. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

There should be no daylight between our two countries.  That`s why early

this year when I went to Israel, I not only met with the prime minister I

met with the opposition leader to let them know that if I were president,

there would be no daylight between the United  States and Israel going

forward. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We need to stop the aggression of Russia into sovereign nations.  You see,

Putin, Putin believes in the old Lenin principle that you prove with

bayonets, if you find mush you push.  Under Obama and Clinton, Putin has

found a whole lot of mush over the last few years. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

The United States needs a foreign policy that will put steel in front of

our enemies. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We need to stop China`s cyberattacks, slow their advances into

international waters and speak about their abysmal human rights record.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

And we need to have the capacity to protect our National Security interest

here and abroad and those of our allies that begins, that begins by

rebuilding the defense budget by going back to the level proposed by

Secretary of Defense Gates. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

We need to honor our men and women in uniform by giving them the resources

that they need to make us safe and going forward by giving them the quality

and timely health care that they deserve when they return home. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

But most of all, the best way we can honor them is by fighting to win.  You

see, this is important.  Our goal should be peace.  But there will be times

when America must fight and if we must, Americans fight to win. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Going forward the world must know that there is no greater friend and no

worse enemy than the United States of America. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

USA!  USA!  USA!  USA!  USA!  USA!  USA!  USA!

America, America is a great country.  It`s a great country and you know

what?  We just have to start leading again.  It`s not too late.  We can do

it because we`ve done it before.  Think about it.  Veterans like Clair

Condan (ph) and Bob Turner remind me, that what makes America great, what

makes us exceptional, what makes us the greatest country in all of the

world is been all throughout our history in times of crisis, be it economic

or fiscal, be it military or spiritual, there have been men and women of

courage who have been willing to stand up and think more about future

generations than they thought about their own political futures.  Ladies

and gentlemen, this is one of those times in American history. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

And so after a great deal of thought and a whole lot of prayer.  We are so

honored to have you join with us here today as we officially announce that

we are running to serve as your president of the United States of America. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Tonette and I -- Tonette and I want our sons Matt and Alex and sons and

daughters like them to grow up in a country that is as great, as great as

the country that we inherited.  Americans deserve a president who will

fight and win for them. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Someone who will stand up to the right of life, liberty and pursuit of

happiness. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Someone who will stand up for our religious freedoms and all of our other

constitutional rights. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Someone who will stand up for America.  You see, it doesn`t matter what you

come from a big city or suburb or small town, I will fight and win for you. 

Healthy, healthy or thick, born or unborn, I will fight and win for you. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Young or old or in anywhere in between, I will fight and win for you.  

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

Over the years, I met some amazing people.  Many of whom have come here

from other places around the world.  I got to tell you, to a person, the

people I`ve met like that tell me the reason they came here was not to

become dependent in the government.  No, the reason they came here was

because America is one of the few places left in the world where it doesn`t

matter what class you were born into or what your parents did for a living,

in America, you can do and be anything you want.  That`s the American

spirit. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

You see, in America, the opportunity should be equal for all of us, but the

outcome, well, that`s up to each and every one of us here and across this

great country.  That`s why we just took a day off to celebrate the Fourth

of July and not the 15th of April, because in America, we celebrate our

independence from the government, not our dependence on it. 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

That`s why I love America.  That`s why we, we love America and that`s why

working together we can fight and win for America.  Thank you for coming

out.  God bless you-all for being here.  God bless our military and may God

continue to bless the United States of America. 

       (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

      

       AL SHARPTON, MSNBC HOST, "POLITICS NATION":  Well, you`ve been

listening to the live announcement by Governor Walker, Wisconsin announcing

officially that he`s in the race and as stated, a very far-right speech. 

He hit everything on the right from ISIS to ObamaCare saying, he`d repeal

ObamaCare to voter ID laws, Keystone Pipeline. 

      

       Let me bring back in Kasie Hunt and Governor Ed Rendell.  Casey, you

were there.  How did it feel in the room?

KASIE HUNT, MSNBC POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT:  Well, Reverend, he delivered

that speech without any teleprompter.  Quite a long speech to have

memorize, it lead to a few differences from the prepared text including his

main line where he said, we are running for president instead of I.  But

this was an expanded version of the speech that we`ve been hearing from

Scott Walker over the course of the last six months, and it`s pretty clear

that he`s been working on this and have gotten a lot better in front of a

crowd with time.  He really stood out first in January at the Freedom

Summit back in Iowa and it was a version of the speech that he gave there

that has shown a considerable degree of improvement and as you said, hit on

a lot of the classic themes that Walker talked about including voter ID

which is almost always one of his biggest applause lines -- Reverend.

SHARPTON:  Yes, it was.  It really was.  Governor, quite impressive, I must

say you and I do public speaking to speak that long without a teleprompter,

speaking from memory but aside from that, what is your reaction?

FMR. GOVERNOR ED RENDELL, FORMER RNC CHAIRMAN:  Well, I thought it was an

accident speech to republican primary voters.  You`re right, and Casey is

right, it hit all the right-wing themes but he did it standing like a

fairly moderate guy.  Where you can close your eyes and sort of imagine

being president of the United States.  So I think it was very effective but

boy, I`m going to hang onto that transcript for the general election

because there are things we were in Philadelphia, can we turn out our base

like we did for President Obama?  There were lines in that speech that were

red meat for our base, too.  

SHARPTON:  Yes.

RENDELL:  So, he may ruin the day he made that speech.

SHARPTON:  Casey Hunt, former Governor Ed Rendell, thank you both for your

time tonight. 

Ahead, why every single republican contender snubbed a conference held by

the nation`s largest Latino activist group.  That`s next. 

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SHARPTON:  Today a big conference from the nation`s largest Latino activist

group at La Raza.  So where were the republican contenders?  They were no

shows, not one republican contender accepted La Raza`s invitation to speak. 

Another chance lost to prove Donald Trump doesn`t speak for their party. 

Joining me now is Janet Murguia, president and CEO of National Council of

La Raza.  And Erika Andiola, an immigration activist on DREAMer.  Thank you

both for being here.  

JANET MURGUIA, NATIONAL COUNCIL OF LA RAZA:  Thank you for having me.

ERIKA ANDIOLA, DRM ACTION, COALITION DIRECTOR:  Thank you, Al.

SHARPTON:  Janet, what are your thoughts on not one -- not one republican

showing up?

MURGUIA:  You know, it`s really hard to believe with Latino vote being so

important and really, making a big difference in the last election we know

they`re going to make a huge difference in this election, we have that kind

of political clout now and yet, the Republicans have been no shows that

most of the Latino events had been held across the country including ours

where we have the largest gathering of Latino activist and grass roots

leaders across the country.  There is an old add age that says, if you want

our vote, you got to come and ask for it and if they`re not here to ask for

it, it`s going to be hard to imagine that they can really rally in time to

get that support.  So we encourage them to rethink their philosophy and

really engage directly the Latino community.  

SHARPTON:  Erica, Donald Trump drew thousands this weekend.  You protested

it.  How do you feel with the republican contenders not taking advantage of

going to La Raza and really standing up to Donald Trump?  I mean, not one

of them as Trump has drawing thousands of people.  

ANDIOLA:  You know, I think that they have forgotten the results of 2012

where Mitt Romney lost not only the Latino vote but the election as well

by, you know, sticking to his self-deportation policies.  So, I think for

me, you know, it`s just interesting to see that even Walker wouldn`t even

mention anything on immigration.  I don`t think he even knows what to say

after Trump has already really spoken for the party.  So, it`s very

unfortunate and I am just really hoping that they backtrack and at least

the ones that are a little bit, you know, more, have a little more common

sense and really realize they need the Latino vote to win 2016 in this

case.  

SHARPTON:  And as you say, Janet, the numbers are clear, the leverage is

there.  It seems that they either don`t get it or they don`t care.  

MURGUIA:  Yes, our hope is that they will get it otherwise, they`re going

to miss a huge opportunity to speak to the fastest-growing part of this

country`s electorate and we actually want to know that people care enough

for our vote to show up and ask for it. 

SHARPTON:  Yes.

MURGUIA:  We`ve got a lot of work to do but I hope that they will

understand that unless they change their ways and reject the Trump part of

the party, they`re going to have a hard time getting traction with the

Latino voters.  

SHARPTON:  Well, Janet Murguia and Erika Andiola, thank you both for your

time tonight. 

Thank you for watching.  I`m Al Sharpton, "HARDBALL" starts right now.

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