Alex Witt   |  August 18, 2013

Glamorization of abuse in '50 Shades of Grey'?

Amy Bonomi from Michigan State University and Wendy Walsh, author of "30-Day Love Detox," talk about the negative side-effects of "50 Shades of Grey."

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>>> a new study says the book that's dominated talk and world wide best certainly lists "fifty shades of grey" promotes abuse. the new study published in the latest journal of women 's health says the steamy sense per per the it a emotional and sexual sex abuse of women . joining me now is a clinical psychologist and michigan state prove for. ladies, welcome. and amy i'll begin with you because you write christian uses an interlocking pattern of emotional abuse and strategy. he manipulates and controls every aspect of anastasia's behavior. how, though, does fiction translate to harming women ?

>> well, fiction -- this is a gross grand slammerization on violence against women . fiction or not it really is speaking to society's tolerance for violence against women .

>> okay. on the flip side some women found this book empowering, liking this plain jane character able to exert a level of influence over a greek god millionaire. do you understand those sentiment?

>> it's every woman's fantasy to turn a bad boy good but it's not reality. as amy said this normalizes the behavior. in many scenes this would be classified as rape. in her first scene her top is put over her face and arms restrained this is describe as rape. since this book has come out there's 79 cases of firefighters or ambulances being called because women are stuck in their handcuffs

>> you're thinking the series glamourizes violence against women ?

>> yes. when you put this in every day language in a best seller it normalizes the behavior. many women think they are practices sexual freedom but they are adopting only the worst of male behavior.

>> e.l. james who has made about 95 million off this trilogy addressed this controversy. "people who think that are sort of demonizing women who actually enjoy these kinds of relationships. what people get up to behind closed doors providing it's safe sane and legal is up to them and not i or anybody to judge." a quote coming from e.l. james . amy , what do you think

>> the relationship in "fifty shades of grey" is not consensual. that's the first point. it violates every notion of what we know about consensual relationships. when alcohol is used it violates consent. when pressure is used it violates conseviolate s consensual consent.

>> people who look at this if women want to do than it's legal and behind closed doors who are we to judge.

>> like when we say it's okay to hit your child behind closed doors or domestic business. it's our business how women and children are treated. i do think there's a power imbalance. this dude is older, he makes a lot more money, has higher rank. she cannot consent. the important thing here is people need to educate themselves on what is a true s and m relationship, what the rules are, what the laws are. it's illegal to tie somebody up and leave them for a second. people need to learn what the reality is in an s and m relationship.

>> i want to ask each of you quickly why you think this is the fastest selling paper back series? why is it so popular?

>> this is the first time women have been given a venue to experience sexuality in an open way. men have had pornography and other things for many years. what e.l. james has done is woven in the romance into the novel as well.

>> windy?

>> i think it's the alure of forced sex . the most common fantasy is forced sex . i want has to be consensual. it's turning women on but contributing to the porn of america.

>> thank you so much. thanks, ladies.