All In   |  July 29, 2013

NC Governor signs restrictive abortion bill into law

North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory signed a restrictive abortion bill into law on Monday night as thousands of North Carolinians protested at the state capitol. Chris Hayes talks about the bill and the Moral Monday movement with State Senator Angela Bryant, Reverend William Barber, and State Representative Larry Hall.

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>>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes . tonight on "all in" workers are walking out at major fast food chains in multiple states. there is a real movement to increase wages across the country, and those workers are here tonight.

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>>> we begin tonight in north carolina where republican governor pat mccrory made history a few hours ago. mccrory just signed an antiabortion bill design to severely destrict access to reproductive services in the state. he signed that bill despite making this campaign pledge at a 2012 gubernatorial debate.

>> if you're elected governor, what further restrictions on abortion would you agree to sign? start with you, mr. mccrory .

>> none.

>> all right.

>> ha. in case you forgot, the bill the governor just signed, despite making that crystal clear promise, less than a year ago, was originally attached to an anti- sharia law bill, and it was finally jammed through by being attached to a motorcycle safety bill. the governor is also poised to make good on his pledge to sign one of the most restrictive voting rights bills in the nation. a bill that he, himself, admits, as of friday, he had not read.

>> i don't know enough -- i'm sorry, i haven't seen that part of the bill.

>> that was governor being asked about a specific provision of that voter restriction bill that eliminates preregistration for 16-year-olds and 17-year-olds that he was apparently unfamiliar with. and keep in mind that question was asked less than five minutes after the governor said he would be signing the law.

>> the second bill that i will sign is the voter i.d. law. i said it in 2008 , and i said it again in 2012 that i think it makes common sense to show an i.d. when to vote.

>> since the governor is apparently unfamiliar with the law he's pledged to sign, let me take a moment to educate him. not only will north carolina 's voter i.d. bill end preregistration for 16-year-old and 17-year-olds who now can register to vote before they turn 18, it slashes the early voting period in half which has, as far as i can tell, absolutely nothing to do with i.d. or alleged fraud. e it limb nates same-day voter registration , requires voters to show a government-issued i.d., ends straight-ticket voting and also ends sunday voting. the rationale for which i cannot define. the bill the governor pledged to sign and the abortion bill the governor just did sign, those are two bills that give you a taste of the radical experiment going down in north carolina . right-wing assault that has produced moral mondays, the most significant concerted civil disobedience campaign anywhere in the country. this was the scene this afternoon as thousands of people marched to the state capitol for the 11th moral monday. the last of the legislative session . steadily week after week spurred by the all-out assault on voting rights , abortion rights and economic stability of north carolinians , people have gathered in the capitol to make their voices heard and in many cases to get arrested. more than 900 people have been arrested participating in moral monday protests since april. the republican governor and legislature have been remarkably successful in jamming through their legislative agenda, but in doing so, they may have just created the movement that will prove to be their undoing. joining me from north carolina tonight, democratic north carolina state senator angela bryant , reverend william barber , president of the north carolina state conference of the naacp, who has been leading the moral monday protests, and representative larry hall , democratic leader in the north carolina house of representatives . thank you, all, for joining us. reverend, i want to begin with you. republicans of your state, the governor, governor mccrory , the republican leadership, right now if they're watching this broadcast, they're thinking to themselves, we got these bills signed, we pushed through our agenda. sure, we took hits in the press for us. sure, there are these people squawking on our lawn, but we win and they lose. why are they not right about that?

>> they're on the wrong side of history. since we've been gathered these 13 moral mondays, less than one out of five north carolinians now agree with them. the numbers have plummeted. the government's numbers have plummeted. they have been labeled as immoral. they're not even republicans. these are not moderate republicans. they have attacked the sick. they've attacked women. they've attacked children. they've attacked the poor. they've attacked the gay community . they've attacked people of faith. they've attacked workers and that attack has brought us together. thousands of people, like you would never expect, in the south where normally these wedge issues divide us, have come together across racial lines, color lines , across class lines, across income lines and we are mobilizing like never before. you will see the biggest fight that you've ever seen since the 1960s .

>> representative hall, my question to you is, what does this new voting restriction bill mean in concrete terms for the citizens of the state of north carolina ? and also for, frankly, the democratic party ?

>> well, chris , we call it the voter intimidation vilification act and it's one that discourages people from voting, limits the time they have to vote, and more importantly limits their able ility to register to vote. that's the key. 300,000 north carolinians don't have the proper i. d. now in order to be able to vote. this is going to discourage people from showing up at the polls. one of the most heinous things they have in this bill, it allows people who live in the county who don't have any idea who votes in precincts across the county to be able to come and challenge people and prevent them from voting without being put under a microscope and being intimidated by the elections officials.

>> wait, anyone can just show up at a polling place and challenge voters?

>> if they're appointed by the party chairman for their county, they don't have to have any familiarity with the precinct they go to. they can go and have voters challenged by the election officials at that precinct.

>> and chris --

>> yes?

>> that's exactly what they're doing is so bad because it's a crime against democracy. it's not just a black issue or white issue. not even just a democrat/republican issue. but they are literally creating crimes against democracy and attacking our most fundamental value and people in this state are fed up and they're working like never before to organize.

>> senator bryant, let any ask you about this about the abortion bill signed today by the governor. i'm somewhat amazed he thinks he can get away with such an obvious 180 on this. i mean, we can play that tape. i wonder if that tape is being played in the north carolina media. are you surprised by how shameless this appears to be?

>> well, no, we're not surprised. when you look at the smokescreen-type legislation and the duplicity in their political strategy, i'm not surprised. just as they're saying the voting bill is about integrity, they're claiming that this abortion bill is about protecting women because their strategy to restrict our right to reproductive health care is constitutional. of course they can't admit that, so they're now claiming it's about protecting us. there's nothing in this bill that protects us. it restricts our access to insurance. it restricts -- provides one of the most broad, conscious provisions there is in the country. even a janitor or receptionist can refuse to provide services to a woman who is needing health care as a result of an abortion, even in an emergency. so this is not about protecting women. it's about restricting our access to reproductive health care and that, of course, is illegal and unconstitutional. so they have to couch it in other kinds of terms.

>> reverend, so this has been -- there have been 13 moral mondays. this is 13th. the final this legislative session . i think i misspoke before about the number. the question is, they go into recess. what is next for this movement?

>> moral monday goes home behind them. they run home, so we're going home . we're going to take moral mondays on the road. the first one is august the 5th in mountain mall monday. then coastal mall monday. on august 24th we're coming to d.c. august the 28th we're doing 13 gatherings and protests and rallies and organizing in the 13 congressional districts of the 13 congressperson in their 13 hometown. what these folk have done is constitutionally inconsistent morally, irresponsible and economically insane, chris . it is just so, so backwards, and they've hurt so many people that it's actually brought us together not for a moment, don't mistake, this is not momentary hyperventilation. this is a movement. in the south, when you see blacks and whites and people of faith and people of little faith, and labor and educate tors and gay and straight coming together and no longer allowing the white southern strategy to divide us, you can bet there's a movement afoot in north carolina . we believe it's going to spread across the south.

>> here's my question for you, representative hall. this is the final question here, and senator bryant, if you want to answer this as well. i have heard from moral monday protesters i've spoken to, and i do not count reverend barber among them, frustration with the state democratic party . they felt like the state democratic party was being steam rolled by the republican party and there was no opposition. they were not concerted enough in fighting them and that the moral mondays arose to fill a vacuum. i'm curious what you think about that and if your strategy changes now going forward?

>> well, our strategy certainly changes going forward because we have more north carolinians who understand the issues. the democratic party has been fighting, and if you look at the votes that were taken on the voter vilification intimidation act, as we call it, if you look at the votes that were taken on that as well as votes that were taken later in the session, you'll see that the democrats in the house of representatives are together and we are moving forward. now we have north carolinians await. this administration basically came to power on a bait and switch strategy, so it doesn't surprise us that they lie. they said they were going to create votes for -- excuse me, jobs for north carolina . they said that was their purpose and that's what they do. the session is over. they haven't created not one job. and so we're going to move forward to replace them and get people back in power who really believe in the future of north carolina and they'll take us forward.

>> chris , the genius of this movement that reverend barber has led is the moral and -- the moral focus own the faith-based focus. it has brought together people who haven't even been paying attention to government. i've got e-mails from people who say, i've never paid attention to the legislature, and as a result of moral mondays, i'm listening to the debates on the internet, on the live stream and on the internet. i'm coming up here every week. this is a broader tent than we've ever had before.

>> state legislatures , if you don't pay attention to them, they will get up to no good. state senator angela bryant . reverend barber from north carolina naacp. state representative larry hall . thank you, all.