All In   |  September 13, 2013

Clearing racial barriers in Alabama in 2013

At least two traditionally white sororities at the University of Alabama rejected two black women from pledging this year. It appears it was a member of the sorority who blew the whistle. Chris Hayes talks with Nicole Carty, an organizer with The Other 98%, Josh Barro, Politics Editor at Business Insider, and Daniel Maree, Founder and Executive Director of the Million Hoodies Movement for Justice.

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>>> alabama where two young women were rejected at the university of alabama . now, the university has a pretty let's call it intense racial history. this is the place where 50 years ago vowed to block black students from enrolling. they were undeterred. became the first black students to enroll. so not necessarily that shocking the school still has some racial barriers to get over. what is encouraging is that it appears that the current sorority were the ones to blow the whistle on this bit of racial exclusion to the school's paper because according to the allegations, the sorority members themselves were pressured by alum ani to turn down the black penlg. the school paper quotes -- who said we were just powerless by the alums. it wasn't just -- yes, an actual real sorority, it was the alumni who stepped in and went over us and had her dropped, adding that the potential black flag in question was such a catch that it would have quote, been a dog fight between all the sororities if she were white. the narnl headquarters -- chalking up to quote policy and procedures about the roles of undergad yats and the role they play in the recruitment process. ten years ago, carla ferguson became the first black woman to pledge and a decade later, she remains the only one. a junior told "the new york times," everyone wants to do something abt, but there's a lot of red tape from older people. i guess she means the old people who pine for the good old dayssegregation, but the grip is weakening. this tale of difference on race is a small parable that sums up a divide that spreads across the country. not just on race and same sexual orientation, but economics as well. most want a bigger government. only 35% want a smaller one. they're more likely to favor socialism by a narrow margin over capitalism and they're the most rationally diverse and least religious age group in the country as well and now, beater biner argues this left leaning cohort isn't going the age out of their politic, but rather are disdesi tinned to at terror the center. they're more willing than their elders to challenge myths about class. there's more reason to believe these attitudes persist. joining me now, organizer with the other 98%, combats economic injustice. josh and daniel -- a civil rights organization that seeings to stop silence against young people in the u.s. josh, as the resident right of center individual at our table, what do you think of the broad thesis, which is that these group of people are a little hard to identify, but let's say the 18 to 30 age range or right around this. or substantively to the left of where the american populous is.

>> i think that remains to be scene and it makes sense. this is a generation coming out of high school or college at the time when the labor market is terrible and has been for years. these people are finding they can't get jobs and i think a message coming out of the republican party that just says we just need lower taxes and government to get out of the way is not appealing to them and so it makes sense that republicans are doing poorly with this. that said, i don't think it's impossible for candidates to do well with these groups. chris christie is going to win voters under age 30.

>> it's not that much narrower. it's still like a 20 or 15-point lead that he has with young voters, which is not as well as he's doing in the older age groups. my point is simply there is a way frame a right of center ideology.

>> one of the things i thought was really important, he defines generation this way, oh, you were born between these periods of time, but also like the life experience at the point of formative experience. which is the key thing to understand this as something coherent. do you feel like the crises, particularly of the last decade, have had this kind of imprinting effect?

>> i was 13 when 9/11 happened. i was 15 when shock and awe happened. bush stole the election. i was in seventh grade. so these are really firm kind of indicators of my generation. we're shaped by it. we were coming into our adulthood, ourselves when all these crises happened and we graduated into a dead economy. so i think that, those are absolutely.

>> if you had to describe, you just said a bunch of stuff that's kind of a bummer. bad, really bad stuff. the worst mass murder event in american history , the horrible war, katrina, then the worst financial crisis in 70 years, that's all in a short period of time when people are forming their world view . what is the cumulative effect of that?

>> that's a good question. probably skepticism. honestly. i think that we have been kind of receiving a lot of information through a lot of different channels and we're just kind of skeptical. skeptable about politics. we want to go outside of it.

>> and that is reflected in public data on this, trust and institutions is very low. that gets a very, it is a very skeptical, do you feel that way?

>> absolutely. right on point. what it says to me is that listen, we're no longer going to rely on solutions prepackaged by our elders, by an older generation, so we're going to come up with our own solution.

>> i think the crack you fall into is to identify something like a genuine break and there's a few things that are genuine breaks. like the genuine financial crisis that was a once in a 70 year occurrence. the actual depressed wager. there was ten years in the 1990 to 2000 when wages went up by 12% and the ten years after, they went down. that's a real effect and i want to ask you guys how that effects like people's political -- how they interact with the political system . right after we take this