Dateline | November 29, 2013
>>> for almost two decades,
here's how lottie spencer talked
about waseem daker.
>> waseem daker is evil.
he's pure evil, he's a monster.
>> but now she calls him a
>> you know what?
i messed up really bad.
>> lottie 's reversal was astonishing.
in the years since carmen
smith's murder, she had built a
new life, she's a single parent
again, raising an 8-year-old
boy, living in a new home.
by recanting her testimony,
she's putting all that at risk.
how worried are you that you
could go to jail for perjury?
>> i know i'm facing prison time
and there will be a real penalty
for what i have done.
and i don't want to be ripped
away from my little boy .
i have earning to lose.
>> a year after daker's
>> the man sleeps in the
blanket, could his hair transfer
to the blanket?
>> and if a man has sex in the
blanket, can his hair transfer
daker's chances really hinged on
>> next witness.
>> loretta spencer .
>> just prior to carmen smith's
murder, i gave her two blankets.
blankets that i knew you used in
my roswell parent.
>> she acknowledged having a
sexual relationship with daker
and lottie 's old list of daker's
abuses started to topple like dominos.
>> did the defendant ever
threaten you with a handgun?
did i ever threaten to kill you
or harm you? >> never.
>> did i ever steal your bras,
panties and hang them on your
doorknob? >> there are people who are
going to say that you are lying
prosecutor jesse evans portrayed
lottie as a troubled, unreliable
>> did you admit to us that you
had some mental issues you were
>> i said i was suffering
anxiety and dregs.
from daker's prison cell .
4,000 pages of correspondence
between the convicted murder and
the woman who testified against
>> i sent him bible verses ,
encouraging karz, i sent him a
lot of case files.
>> it turns out lottie has been
helping with daker's appeal.
he's been giving her research assignments.
she looks up cases, prints up
documents, mails them to prison
and waits for his next request.
>> there's no doubt by sending
those letters to him, a
convicted murder, a sociopath,
she's opened the door, she's
allowed him an opportunity to
get back into her life.
and we already know he has a
history of manipulating her.
>> is he manipulating you right
now to get what he wants?
>> this is a repentan woman.
>> he never said a word about
giving my blankets to carmen .
>> it wasn't until after she
started secretly communicating
with the defendant that she then
made this broad assertion that,
well, i had given some blankets
to carmen .
the problem is i challenged her
describe the blankets, tell me
which ones they were.
she couldn't remember.
>> there's no smoking gun or
smoking blankets in this case.
>> i don't think there's any
blankets, i don't think there's
any evidence of that.
>> lottie not only recanted her
testimony from two trials but
described the incredible lengths
she's willing to go to set daker free.
>> you applied for a second
mortgage to help in waseem 's
defense and you even took out a
life insurance policy naming waseem as the beneficiary?
>> my daughter is the
beneficiary, she would get a
third, my son would get a third
and daker would get a third.
yes, i would mortgage my house
and i would hire him the best
defense that he could possibly
>> the fund rasing, the
correspondent with daker, the
legal research .
judge staley didn't buy her new
she rejected daker's motion for
a new trial.
>> the right results were
reached for the right reasons.
i know we have done things the
>> the judge said she lacked
correct and her new testimony
appeared to have been concocted
by the defendant.
but lottie seems unbowed, ready
to carry on her fight.
>> somebody needs to stand up
and say, wait a minute, justice
was not served in this case.
>> and on that point, lottie 's
not alone. ja
daker's shadow attorney agrees.
>> what kind of more pivotal
evidence could there possibly be?
i believe there should be a new trial.
>> how can you believe anything
lottie 's said?
>> i think when you have a man
who's life is at take, you -- 12
people to hear her version now
and let them decide if it's true
but after all these years,
lottie and waseem are still very
much a part of each other's
>> are you ever going to give up
on waseem ?
are you in this until all
appeals are exhausted?
>> yes, i played a role, of an
innocent man being falsely
convicted for crimes he did not
i have got to make it right.
>> i have no doubt that waseem
daker is a cold-blooded killer
and justice has been served with
i hope that the appeals court
if they don't agree -- this case
is about carmen .
this case is about nick.