Meet the Press | June 30, 2013
>> one of the things we talked about this week is whether this momentum to ban abortion after 20 weeks, narrow abortion rights , is ultimately going to become a federal issue.
>> i think there's a strong chance the court will hear an abortion case next term. there's one from oklahoma pending. they've shown interest in it. i would not be surprised if it comes back.
>> jim demint , you your reaction to what's played out in texas and state senator davis ' comments.
>> cases like the philadelphia abortionist that shows the horrendous conditions in these clinics that have actually killed women -- i mean, if we're talking about women 's health, we need to consider that. but now two-thirds of americans believe that after a baby's heart is beating and they can feel pain that they need some protection. so i'm glad to see a lot of states like texas and arkansas begin to consider this. and the more the ultrasounds have become part of the law where a woman gets the opportunity to see that there's a real child, it's beginning to change minds. and i think that's a good thing. it's time that the 3,000 babies we lose every day have some people speaking um for them.
>> women don't get the opportunity with ultrasound bills. they're mandated by the state. if a woman does not want an ultrasound or her doctor doesn't want her to have one, if it's not medically indicated, the state government is stepping in and saying you must have this ultrasound by order of the state government . because of the timing on a lot of these, and what is being mandated is a vaginal ultrasound, so it's an invasive vaginal forced procedure that a woman cannot say no to by order of the state government . and that is all right with you. i understand that. you feel that you've got interest strong enough to override a woman's desire to not have that happen to you that you can insist that it does as a legislator. but most american women i think are going to balk at that. if you want to make it a federal issue, i'd say the democrats will be delighted to have that fight. but as republicans push this further and further and further, it's the wendy davis of the world that are going to make you make the argument.
>> she's forgetting about the thousands of women who want an nched choice, who want the opportunity to get a free ultrasound, which they can get not from planned parenthood but from a lot of these pregnancy centers.
>> it's not free.
>> it is in many cases.
>> it would not be --
>> just a second.
>> women 's right to know laws are supported by the overwhelm mag joe torre not just of men but of women and 70% of the american people fav bans on abortion after the 20th week, late-term abortion.
>> do you think they should have an ultrasound if they don't want one?
>> it should be litigated. i think it's a matter of provincial judgment by the state.