Meet the Press   |  July 07, 2013

Todd: Obama government will be more involved in Egypt

NBC Political Director Chuck Todd tells David Gregory that while the White House was hands off during the last election in Egypt, this time the Obama administration knows they have to play a larger role.

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>> africa with the president. this administration again, as it was a couple years ago, seems bike a bistander, not a real actor.

>> they do, but that is the one lesson they'll take away from what went wrong in the transition to morsi. the united states , president obama involved in pushing mow move bark out, then hands off, let morsi go. not this time. this time the plan is you will see the obama administration, the obama government more involved in building the democrat -- because it goes to andrea points. elections are not enough for democracy. you have to learn how to govern, too. this time the u.s. government is going to be more hands on, helping them build all parts of this new government both in the interim basis and helping them hold this election, realizing the president owns this, whether he likes itover not. there's no more sitting back.

>> confident in the military, confident they'll give power back right away, that this could actually turn out well more in america's snaifr.

>> i think it's hopeful. there's a wonderful little detail in some of "the new york times" reporting today which said at a key moment when morsi was being pressed by another foreign minister to back off and try to salvage this, he was told when he refused to bring more people into his government that mother says this will not continue, mother being the united states . the fact is that america has been very involved in this. they took that lesson as chuck was just saying. and patterson , the ambassador there, criticized for sticking with morsi too much from the street.

>> you bring up our ambassador patterson , ann patterson , tom friedman , she said this weekend in one of the statements that raised a lot of eyebrows, let me be clear, military intervention is not the answer, as some would claim. neither the egyptian military nor the egyptian people will accept it as an outcome. some interpreted that as support for the morsi government. secretary of state put out a statement saying that's absolutely not the case. the administration refuses to call this a coup. what is the role of the administration at the moment?

>> there are so many things that are not being answered. morsi being elected and then ramming through a constitution pro-islamist without the rest of the country really getting a say, that also was not really a smart thing to do. so everyone has behaved badly here. you know, to pick up a point jeff said, one of the problems in all these countries, they are pluralistic, but they have no pluralism. we just re-elected a black man whose middle is hussein who defeated a woman running against a mormon. no one does that. we are freaks. the only way these kun trips are going to be able to govern horizontally -- for all these years they've governed vertically, from the top down with iron fists. the colonial powers are gone. now the iron fist in generals are gone. the only way they can be governed is horizontally. can they right writhe a social contract for how they live together with their pluralism? that's what's at stake.