Meet the Press | July 14, 2013
>>> we're back with more of our roundtable. we spoke to reverend al sharpton earlier on in the program. new push after the zimmerman verdict for civil rights charges perhaps to be brought against zimmerman. rich lowry , you've written about this as well. you think this has been an overreach by civil rights leaders and reverend sharpton and others both in the leading up to and the charges being brought.
>> obviously, this was a fair trial . you can argue the judge hated one of the defense attorneys if you saw the way she treated him. and initially, when this case came to national prominence, i thought it was wrong that he wasn't charged. i thought it was right for people to draw attention to the case for that reason. but the more we learned in the trial, the more clear it was that the police judgment initially was probably correct and that this was a case of self-defense, and certainly it was always absurd to compare this case to emmett till or the crucifixion of jesus christ as the reverend did. that was always putting way too much social and political baggage on what was just a terrible tragedy.
>> i don't think any of us compared it to the crucifixion of jesus christ . i think we compared the reaction of the fact that these police made no arrest. we would never have known -- would we known if the country hadn't watched this trial. clearly the police should have made an arrest. the story told the police we found to be inconsistent, some of it outright lies at trial. so just because the jury said he wasn't guilty does not mean he was innocent and that they should not have tried him. and it has nothing to do with civil rights charges. you must remember, the state said this has nothing to do with race. race was not in this trial, which means that it can be tried by the feds to see if bias was involved. they clearly stated we're not talking about race in this trial. well, the civil rights case of the federal government wouldn't be around whether race was involved.
>> governor richardson , we played on the program the president talking about in such personal ways about trayvon martin, if i had a son he would look like trayvon martin. is there a racial wound to be healed here? what are the ramifications of this verdict?
>> i believe there is a racial wound to be healed. i worry about the aftermath. i was disappointed in the verdict. it seemed like a sound legal process , although the standard seemed very high for the prosecutors. but i worry about the aftermath. i worry about all those young black kids out there that see a system of justice that maybe doesn't respond to them. i think a national dialogue is needed. i think the reverend is right. there's a legal process , too. but a conversation is needed, because there's a lot of simmering resentment over this trial. obviously, we didn't see any big demonstrations, but it's out there, and we should talk about these things because, you know, here's a young, unarmed 17-year-old who's shot. all right, the system of justice, we respect it, but that doesn't mean we don't have a dialogue.
>> neera, i want to switch slightly to a couple political notes. some of the gun laws at work here in florida could be fodder for what's happening in the legislature and for 2014 . also abortion.
>> we were speaking about it on the break. were you struck by leader reid saying he would take a look at late-term abortion bans in the senate and that marco rubio might advance that legislation?
>> look, i think if the u.s. senate wants to take on this issue, you know, anyone who wants to take on this issue i think is really going to motivate progressives and liberals. you've seen this in texas. these laws are really just efforts to undermine abortion by another name. and what's been surprising about these debates is is how much it's energizing women across the country. i'll remind my conservative friends that we did see a giant latino gap, a huge vote in favor of the president. we also saw a historic gender gap . and i think on a range of issues the republican party is moving out of step with the rising coalition of women, latinos and other, and this will help seal the deal.
>> prominent woman as hillary clinton in the news this week for the lucrative deal that she signed with regard to speaking around the country. might she like the private sector more than running for president? or is this the kind of platform that could actually help her reach the grassroots by speaking across the country?
>> she has 30 years of history. i'm talking on a range of issues. and i'm sure people are fascinated by her substantive conversations on these issues. she's had a range of experiences both domestic and international. so i think this will be a great opportunity for her to get her views out to people around the country.
>> steve, your assessment of where hillary clinton stands now in the democratic --
>> she'll be a very formidable candidate for the nomination. if you look at it rugt now, it's tough to see in who in the democratic party who belts her, but she also has no illusions about what it's like to be to run for president. she's been around it far long time. it may be as she thinks about this very brutal process that lies ahead if she does it again that maybe she doesn't want to do it. i think we'll have to wait