Meet the Press | August 25, 2013
>> like that is still going to be difficult, as is finding the real true message of the republican party as the republican party tries to win back the white house and overall control of congress. general colin powell was on this program earlier this year and he spoke about another challenge that faces the party that he says really is intolerance. this is what he told me.
>> there's also a dark -- a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. what do i mean by that? what i mean by that is they still sort of look down on minorities.
>> heard john lewis say there's still not a lot of acceptance of an african- american president , calls for impeachment this week, that some have chalked up to racism. what's your view of a dark vein of intolerance within the gop?
>> well, first of all, let's talk about --
>> is that fair even?
>> well, i have a lot of respect for general powell . i think our party at its best, its core principles looks at people and treats them as individuals, not as members of special interest groups . talk about specific examples, impeachment, for example. look, i reject that kind of talk. the reality is i can't like it when the left spent eight years trying to delegitimize president bush . i don't think we should be koing that to president obama . the reality is one of the great things about this country is we have a peaceful transfer of policy. i disagree this president's policies, but instead of talking act impeachment, let's have a legitimate debate, try to repeal his policies, repeal obama care, fight for school choice , fight against war and debt spending. entitlement spending. you see the disparity numbers, have the numbers from earlier about the african-american unemployment rate, the challenges in joining the middle class . it's time for a new approach. let's not talk about impeachment. let's talk about the policies we disagree with.
>> on obama care, you have the speaker e of the house saying the president's not going to lose his signature achievement, that efforts to defund obama care, eve on the threaten a government shutdown simply are not going to work.
>> well, look, one, i don't know why we would negotiate with ourselves. the this isn't about politics. i think obama care is bad for our health care system . i care deeply about health care . the president himself said if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep it, if you like your doctor, you'll be able to keep it. that won't be true for millions of americans. turns out premiums are going up by some to estimates as much as 30% across the country in certain markets and some much more than that. so i don't know why we would take any option off the table. i don't think this president or the democrats are going to want to shut down the government. that's a false choice . that's a threat coming from them. i think republicans should use every tactic, every option the repeal and replace --
>> what would the impact of shutting down the government mean?
>> i think this is a false threat from the other side. you don't have to shut it down to repeal and replace obama care. we should be fighting to defund it. the reality is let's have that debate. i don't think republicans should be negotiating with ourselves and saying we're not going to do this or that. look at every option to get rid of obama care.