Meet the Press | October 06, 2013
>> it is the job of the president of the united states to rise above petty politics. the shutdown is politics. the debt ceiling is a catastrophe. the last time we had this, we solved it by painful bipartisan negotiations. that is the way to get out of this debt ceiling. i think it's the president's job to knock heads. republicans won't get much, but they'll get something. they'll give up a lot. but the democrats can't be in a we won't negotiate harry reid kind of way.
>> but they passed the health and credit act to ensure that if we go over the debt limits, the debts would be paid, and the democrats uniformly oppose that because they want to make everything as frightening and painful as possible. they complain about the nih not having furnding. republicans want to fund the nih but the democrats oppose it. it's the cynicism and intransigence show.
>> let's be clear. they pillaried the senate for not having a budget. we passed a budget, the senate passed a budget six months ago. they ignored it. we would not be where we are today had they gone to conference and had a budget.
>> no, no, the house has passed a bill to fund the nih. why won't you support it?
>> it was passed. i don't support it because every single