Meet the Press | December 15, 2013
>> i think it shows the leadership and respect that paul ryan brings to the table. he's one of those guys that steps out of the role of congress and really stepped up to provide some leadership. but for those of us who think the federal government is too big, too intrusive and too involved in our lives tells us that if we want a budget deal we can wrap our arms around, we have to win in the 2014 elections, key senate races, and things are different if the republicans are in charge of the senate.
>> do you support this deal now? do you think it was the right thing for republicans to do now under these circumstances?
>> again, that's why i give paul ryan so much credit for his leadership. i think that's why you hear few, if any, criticisms against paul himself because people understand --
>> the question is do you think this is a good idea? we know you like paul ryan . he's from wisconsin and showing leadership here, but do you think this is a good idea?
>> i do. i think it is good to go forward, but i also think we have to reinforce why races like the one we're going to have in arkansas and other places around the country are so important. if you're going to bring conservative activists across the table, they have to see it for what it is, and it's a big wake-up call particularly if grassroots people want to see a stronger budget in the future, we have to trust the government.
>> you've got over 500 people who have signed up for gop changes in your state. you're being conservative, and yet you seem to be doing something different in your state. you'll allow people to go directly to the insurance companies . is that a level of support on some level for obamacare?
>> no, in my case, i did everything in my power. i allowed my attorney general, on the first day i took office, to join the federal lawsuit. i didn't take the state exchange, i didn't take the medical expansion, but by the same token, i wasn't going to allow my citizens to suffer. so we found a way to cover everyone living in poverty, to transition those in poverty into the marketplace, and we're also making a case to the federal government in many of our counties where there are qualified health plans not in exchanges, that if they can just guy buie those on their own, they should get the subsidy for that. in the long haul, i would very much prefer to have a patient center plan. i think people clearly here in my state deserve to have health care and health decisions made by themselves and their families and not be pre did he sdestined by the federal government , so i think that would be a much better alternative.