Meet the Press | March 16, 2014
>> talking nitty gritty politics. a couple findings from our " wall street journal " nbc news poll striking about the pescy mix and hostility towards both parties. republicans 27, positive 45 neg it be, democrats 35 positive, 38 negative. and the country's just overall in a kind of malaise. look at this, 71% think that the government's not working well. or is stagnant. right track wrong track 65% say it's in the wrong direction. and 57% still think that the country is in recession. so my roundtable is here and let me get to it this morning. joining me back here is carolyn ryan, washington bureau chief for the "new york times," robert gibbs , white house press secretary between 2009 and 2011 . i'm pleased to welcome a couple new faces israel ortega of the heritage foundation . to get a perspective from outside washington , jon ralston, long time political reporter from nev and host of the ralston reports which airs in las vegas on our nbc station there. welcome to all of you. john, i think this is the ultimate question about what is drew driving such disappointment with both parties rights now.
>> people are always disappointed. this is just especially what the pole arization in washington and it's spreading across the country. people are upset things are just not getting done. and you saw dan pfeiffer and almost robert gibbs ' like masterful way dodging every question that you asked. they don't want to talk about whether the president's going to go out to the states. i don't think anyone's clamoring. i think people forget. i don't think it's just a deferring c. phenomenon. it's march. things could dramatically change by november. but i think the democrats are worried, not just because of what happened in florida but because of the numbers you put up and the fact that the president's approval rating is in the low 40s.
>> i think what unites all of these an recent developments and what would be most worrisome to the democrats and obama administration is feels like in some real way that people have lost trust in president obama , and i don't mean trust just in the narrow sense of is he honest, is he foerth right, but do they trust president obama to solve the problems that are most important to?u!" them and their families. when you look at those numbers from the nbc " wall street journal " poll, it cuts across the range of issues but it was the obama care rollout and the halting incompetent of that that really i think demonstrated it.
>> you're writing about it in the paper this morning, the disappointment the democrats have in this president about obamacare, that seems to be -- know what the republicans are coming after him. but his own party saying just not so motivated.
>> i think there's a trust deficit in the america with washington . there's a belief when looking at washington that we're in no danger here of solving any problems that people suf out in actual america. there's no doubt that the rollout for health care is still providing a huge hangover. i think the genuine problem that democrats are nervous about is we're looking at a%w$?uq)m election where the electorate is much less likely to look like a presidential and more to like like 2010 . if this electorate is more conservative, less hispanic, less african-american and less young, then --
>> like the presidential.
>> there's real, real danger that the democrats could suffer suf big losses because the real estate and the turf in which these elections are taking place begin with an advantage to the republicans.
>> you see motivated republicans, israel. you see disain't poed democrats . whenever i look at that right track, wrong track i see a very high wrong track number. a lot of independence numbers are turned off to the majority number.
>> i think it goes to the question you just raised about trust and i think you heard aid kathleen sebelius this week4p$? premiums are likely to go up next year. you see that clip7?f you just played of the president saying if you like your doctor, you can't keep it. this is going to be something that's going to be coming up in the midterm election . it's got to be raised.
>> let's be clear because the nbc poll showed that the american be people don't want to see a wholesale repeal of health care reform bass they know what health care was like. they know that an insurance company got to control whether or not they got treatment. and the american people don't like that. it is incumbent upon democrats though in order to even that number up to have aggressive campaigns that push republicans not just on what they'd repeal. we know that, but what would they do in its place.
>> john, as you talk to people, especially outside of washington , are they still listening? do they want to hear the particulars robert's talking about on health care or think wow, this thing is kind of a disaster.
>> i think the whole repeal question is misleading. maybe they don't want it repealed but still upset with the roll out. they may have friends or members of with healthcare.gov. in nevada we set up our own exchange which has been a disaster. almost makes the federal look like a well oiled machine. it's not going to be a binary choice repeal or not reapeel. it's do you think this it is working and do you have confidence in the democrats who supported this.