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The Ed Show for Friday, September 3rd, 2010

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Guests: Richard Trumka, Bob Shrum, Jon Soltz, Jesse Jackson, Joe Madison,

Michael Medved, Stephanie Miller, Lizz Winstead

ED SCHULTZ, MSNBC ANCHOR:  Good evening, Americans, and welcome to THE ED SHOW tonight from Minneapolis.

These stories are hitting “My Hot Buttons” at this hour. 

American workers are under attack from all sides.  And I‘m fighting for their honor and dignity.  I‘ve got an invitation for you, plus a special commentary on this coming up next. 

You may not know it, but America‘s inner cities have become war zones.  The murder rate in the president‘s hometown of Chicago will absolutely shock you.  Reverend Jesse Jackson joins me in “The Battleground” story tonight to expose the talk of wars that are raging right here at home and America. 

And “The Newtster.”  Well, he‘s flip-flopping again.  The guy who fear-mongered about Obama‘s socialist agenda is now pushing, believe it or not, for a government takeover of Ground Zero. 

That‘s all coming up.  But this is the story that has me fired up first tonight. 

Glenn Beck and I have had this war of words all week long over this so-called Restoring Honor rally in Washington.  Now, I don‘t think he restored any honor to this nation with his preachy, phony, self-centered sermon about bringing the country back to God. 

He managed to convince a reported 100,000 to 300,000 people to show up to listen to his nonsense, but you know what?  It took the help of, let‘s see, a number of billionaire investors to bus people, Sarah Palin to show up, Dick Armey‘s FreedomWorks.

You had a lot of the help, didn‘t you, Glenn, to get that big crowd? 

Well, let me tell you something, folks.  I‘m tired of the e-mails and I‘m looking right at you tonight. 

I‘m going to accept the challenge because I know we as a country can get this done and get the real march going.  I‘m honored to announce tonight that I‘m joining forces with labor and the NAACP to march on Washington on October 2nd

Will you join us?  They‘ve just invited me to be a part of the One Nation movement.  I will be a featured speaker there and I want all Ed Heads to be there across America.  And you can bring whatever sign you want, because it‘s freedom of speech.

Tens of thousand of labor activists will gather and march to make a statement about what really matters in this country.  It‘s jobs; it‘s economic justice and the right that we all have to a secure job and fight the outsourcing in America; a safe home; and also a quality education. 

Now, on my Web site on Monday, we are going to release a five-page outline of what this march is going to be all about on October 2nd.  One Nation, working together, core policy principles.  The mission and outline, we will put it on my Web site,, come up this Labor Day.  Appropriately on labor day. 

The march—put it on your calendar—is October 2nd, a Saturday, in Washington, D.C.  Yes.  We‘re going to get a real big crowd, Glenn.  Maybe you should come over and be with real Americans. 

Bring Sarah with you if you want because this is about uniting people.  This isn‘t about dividing people.  This is about focusing on what American families need. 

And I want to guarantee you that this isn‘t going to be any phony religious revival to shine the spotlight on a multimillion-dollar TV personality.  That‘s not what this is about. 

Folks, I know in my heart that there are a lot of Americans out there who need their voices heard, and I‘m proud to have been invited because I know American workers are under attack on all fronts as we are—heading into this Labor Day weekend, there‘s going to be a lot of families gathering across the country.  They‘re going to be talking about the tough times. 

American wage earners have been treated like road kill by corporate America.  Unemployment rose to 9.6 percent in August.  Fifty-four thousand more jobs have been lost in our economy. 

I tell you what, we‘ve got to do something.  We‘ve got a lot of work to do.  And I‘m going to do everything I possibly can on this show and in the Ed Schultz radio show to motivate Americans, to answer back to those who say no to working Americans, to answer back to those people who say no to access to capital, to answer back to those people who have denied the middle class. 

I‘m calling on all middle-classers and all people of all incomes across this country to finally come together and let‘s end this divide that‘s taking place in America.  I‘ll have the outline of the march on my Web site coming up, appropriately, as I said, on Labor Day. 

Now, here‘s the advice that I think we need to really look at and examine.  It‘s not the advice of the televangelist who had this to offer --  


GLENN BECK, FOX NEWS HOST:  Have trust in the Lord and recognize that Moses and Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, they were men.  They were just like you.  They just picked up their stick. 

Do not stand and look to someone else.  Look to yourself.  Pick up your stick and stand. 


SCHULTZ:  Got that, America?  Just pick up your stick.  That will get a lot of food on the table, won‘t it? 

Beck, I don‘t think Moses is taking applications right now. 

Beck and his disciples claim that they want to help their fellow man as long as they‘re not unemployed for too long.  Here‘s what he really thinks about the long-term unemployed, the 99ers -- 


BECK:  The 99ers, these people some of which, frankly, I bet you‘d be ashamed to call them Americans, they think that 99 weeks on unemployment benefits just aren‘t enough. 


SCHULTZ:  Does that bring America together?  Is that Christian, to take people who have fallen down in this economy and can‘t recycle back in because there‘s the concentration of wealth and Wall Street‘s tight with the dollar and money—access to money is really tight?  Is that the attitude you want to take Americans? 

That‘s the great divider.  Beck is the great divider. 

So they‘re somehow less American because they organized a rally or because they‘re more desperate than someone who just lost their job?  Righties don‘t get it at all. 

People need more than instructions to pick up their sticks.  They need more than prayer rallies.  They need leaders to step up and show some courage, and provide a safety net and an opportunity equally in America. 

Tea Party Senate candidate Sharron Angle, she‘s a perfect example.  She proved that she is absolutely clueless about jobs and the unemployment rate in this country in a radio interview.  Here it is. 


SHARRON ANGEL ®, NEVADA SENATE CANDIDATE:  All Shelley Berkley and Harry Reid want to do is put a Band-Aid on this by extending unemployment, which really doesn‘t benefit anyone. 


SCHULTZ:  Sharron, the people you hope to represent are among the most in need.  Nevada, your state, has a 14.2 percent unemployment rate. 

It‘s not just Republicans acting hostile towards labor.  The president‘s right-hand man doesn‘t seem to get it either.  According to former White House car czar, Steve Rattner, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said “F the UAW.”  Hell of an attitude, isn‘t it? 

If that is how the White House chief of staff feels, I think the guy ought to be out of his job.  I don‘t care what Rahm Emanuel did in ‘06 or whatever.  This is about now and this is about jobs. 

Labor has been under attack in this country for the last 30 years.  It is my mission to be a part of this, to motivate the audience of this television show, and to motivate my radio audience to get on this platform to be a part of this march on Washington on October 2nd

We are at a crucial time in this country.  Do you want to turn the Congress over to people that are going to be consistently working against the working folk of America?  They have that record to run on.  That‘s who they are. 

It‘s about uniting people.  Do we care about people that lose their jobs in this economy?  Do we care about outsourcing?  Do we care about money that goes to Wall Street and bailout Wall Street? 

Isn‘t it time to do something for the American worker?  Is that the godly thing to do, to care about your neighbor? 

Let‘s get real about this.  Let‘s turn this country around.  Support our president.  Support what has to be done for this country. 

Let‘s overrun the obstructionists with our passion and our vision for America.  And let‘s do it, one nation, unite all workers.  Let‘s get it done. 

Get your cell phones out, folks.  I want to know what you think about the unemployment situation in this country. 

Tonight‘s text survey is: What do you think Republican politicians care more about, your jobs or their jobs?  Text “A” for jobs, text  “B” for their jobs to 622639.  We‘ll bring you the results later on in the show. 

Now, joining me tonight, first off here on THE ED SHOW, is the president of the largest federation of unions in the United States, representing more than 11 million hard-working Americans, AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka. 

Mr. Trumka, I am honored to be a part of it on October 2nd.  We‘re going to have a fabulous turnout and show all of America that the middle class, that the hard-working folk of America have a voice, and support this president.  And we‘re going to move the obstructionists aside, and actually, we‘re going to ask them to join us and realize what is really going on in this country. 

And I appreciate the opportunity to join you.  I‘m looking forward to it.  So thank you. 

RICHARD TRUMKA, PRESIDENT, AFL-CIO:  You bet.  Thanks for having me on.

And let me say happy Labor Day weekend to you and all your listeners, Ed.  This is a weekend where we celebrate the contributions that unions and working people made to build this country, to keep it running and to defend it. 

SCHULTZ:  What is behind the One Nation march?  What do you want to see come out of this?

TRUMKA:  We want to show America what a progressive vision of America can be like, one where we all come together, where we work together to get jobs for everyone who wants them, to get social justice for everybody, and an education for everyone.  So we‘ll be joining together with civil rights groups, environmental groups, human rights groups, and other progressive organizations to show that vision to America about what we can do, not what we can‘t do, how we work together, how we come together.

SCHULTZ:  Mr. Trumka, we‘ve got some bad job news again today.  In the month of August, 54,000 Americans went into the unemployment line.  We‘ve spent $500 billion so far of the stimulus package.  Thirty-six percent of the money still has to go out.

What do we have to do turn this around?  What do you think?

TRUMKA:  Well, first of all, the figures were disappointing, although private sector jobs were created.  So that‘s a little bit of good news, but the 11.5 million jobs that were destroyed, it‘s not nearly enough.

We have to do it at a much larger scale.  And the job bills are out there.  We have 400 bills that were passed by the House of Representatives that are sitting at the door of the Senate not being acted upon—most of those are job creation bills—because the Senate Republicans refuse to say anything except no. 

We have the Clean Water Authorization Act.  We have the Transportation Reauthorization Act.  We have the Clean Energy Act. 

All of those are ready to go.  They will create jobs, rebuild the infrastructure, make us more efficient and more competitive as a nation, and put people back to work.  All we need to do is have them get off their duffs and care a little bit more about people and creating jobs than they do beltway politics. 

SCHULTZ:  Mr. Trumka, great to have you with us tonight.  Thanks for all you do for the American workers.  And we‘re looking forward to October 2nd.  We‘ll get it done. 

TRUMKA:  Look forward to seeing you there, Ed.  We‘re going to have a great crowd, and we‘re going to show America what a progressive vision can be like. 

SCHULTZ:  No doubt about it. 

Now I want to turn to a veteran Democratic strategist and NYU professor, Bob Shrum.

Bob, great to have you with us tonight as we go into this Labor Day weekend.

I know that you‘re a fighter and proponent of the American workers in this country.  I‘m taking issue with the White House in this segment tonight. 

Here‘s Mitch McConnell throwing it back out again to the American people, claiming that this administration is going to raise taxes on small businesses.  “McConnell touted the Republican belief that a tax increase on the upper income Americans and small businesses would continue to hamper economic growth.”  He said. “This administration has done a lot to discourage business from growing and hiring, and that‘s the problem.”

The White House today is silent on this.  I‘m stunned. 

What is their strategy?  Let me say as a small business owner in America, they are not raising taxes on small businesses.  It‘s just crazy what they‘re getting away with. 

Bob, your thoughts? 

BOB SHRUM, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST:  Well, first of all, I think we ought to try and have an even bigger fight here.  I mean, not only are we not raising taxes on small businesses, but I think next week, when the Congress comes back, the president and the Democrats ought to have the guts to stands up and say, not only are we going to get rid of the Bush tax cuts for the top two percent, but we‘re not going to keep that money right now.  The Treasury isn‘t going to keep that money. 

We‘re going to send that money out to the middle class so that they‘ll spend it, so that we‘ll help stimulate this economy.  We could then have a fight between the Republicans and the Democrats, and the issue would be tax cuts for the privileged or tax cuts for people?  It would be good for the economy, it would be good politics. 

And by the way, we‘d better raise the stakes before the midterm or we are going to just get just run over. 

SCHULTZ:  Do you think they‘ll do something as soon as they come back from vacation? 

SHRUM:  I don‘t know, because you‘ve got a lot of the Democrats whoa

re scared now, who are sort of hiding, they‘re crouching down, and they‘re

saying, well, why don‘t we just extend all the Bush tax cuts for a year or two years?  Which, by the way, will then take this issue into the 2012 election. 

We have to understand and Democrats have to understand the party of no is also the party of recession.  They caused the recession.  They want a downturn.  They want to slow down all the way to 2012. 

And we have to tell the American people who‘s out there fighting for jobs and who‘s out there fighting for special interests.  The issues are there, but I think the president has to step up and he has to articulate this. 

SCHULTZ:  Bob Shrum, always a pleasure.  Great to have you with us tonight.  Thanks so much. 

SHRUM:  Thanks, Ed.

SCHULTZ:  Coming up, you won‘t believe Newt‘s idiotic new plan to stop the building of an Islamic center near Ground Zero.  This guy has absolutely no shame. 

I‘ll get “Rapid Fire Response” on that.

And Alan Simpson just unleashed a disgusting attack on Vietnam veterans.  Vote Vets chairman Jon Soltz is calling on the president to fire him.  He‘ll sound off next on THE ED SHOW.

All that, plus the first Hillary 2012 commercial hits the air?  “Caribou Barbie” is hitting below the belt.  And there‘s breaking news about the 2-year-old smoker.  I‘ll have that for you in the “Playbook.” 

You‘re watching THE ED SHOW on MSNBC.  The march is on.  I‘ll show you who can get a crowd October 2nd


SCHULTZ:  Welcome back to THE ED SHOW, and thanks for watching tonight. 

A group of war veterans are demanding former Senator Alan Simpson be fired from the White House Debt Commission. penned a scathing letter to President Obama after Simpson suggested veterans getting federal medical aid are adding to the country‘s debt problem. 

The administration announced this week that they are extending coverage for conditions that might be linked to Agent Green toxic chemicals Vietnam soldiers came in contact with.  Simpson‘s response was, “It‘s the kind of thing that‘s just driving to us this $1.4 trillion deficit this year.  The irony is that the veterans who serve this country are now, in a way, not helping to us save the country in this fiscal mess.”

The guy is goofy, folks.  In the letter to the president of the United States, Vote Vets chairman Jon Soltz returned fire, said that this was the final straw and that Simpson cannot be trusted. 

I absolutely agree with  I mean, this is about—probably about as low as it gets, don‘t you think, to do this to the vets?  It shows just what the Republicans are all about—the money. 

He wants to cut medical aid to the soldiers, the brave soldiers that have come back from combat.  They do a great job of wrapping themselves in the flag, but when it comes to helping the veterans, it‘s still about the greenbacks. 

This is the same guy who called Social Security a cow with 310 million things—I can‘t say it on TV—the same guy that makes sexist comments to the director of the Older Women‘s League.  The president stood by him after those comments.  Now it‘s time to act. 

Jon Soltz, an Iraq veteran captain, joining us, and chairman of, here tonight on THE ED SHOW.

How insulting do you think former Senator Simpson was, Jon?

JON SOLTZ, CHAIRMAN, VOTEVETS.ORG:  It‘s pretty insulting.  I thought we were going to do “Psycho Talk” tonight, but we‘re going to talk about this a little early. 

Look, it‘s offensive.  I mean, Vietnam veterans have done a lot for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.  Obviously, I penned that letter directly targeting a program the president and General Shinseki just put in place over at the VA, which is to help veterans that are having complication from Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam who now have diabetes. 

And so it‘s very difficult to connect all these funky problems that veterans have as they go forward in life.  And so what the Obama administration is trying to doing is widen the ability for people to get disability both for PTSD and for Agent Orange victims.  So for him to personally insult them is absolutely absurd and ridiculous, and it shows that he‘s completely in left field.  It‘s actually a personal attack on all veterans, which is why we think he should be fired. 

SCHULTZ:  Agent Orange, that has been around for decades.  How many soldiers do you think were actually affected by that?  How many of them need help?  How many of them are getting help? 

SOLTZ:  Well, I think conceptually, you know, a couple years ago, a soldier of mine, he came up to me and he said, “Hey, Sir.  My dad‘s having some problems.  He has some kind of weird cancer.  He was a combat engineer in Vietnam.  He dealt with Agent Orange all the time.”

And they fought the VA for years just to get into the system.  And that could have saved that soldier‘s father‘s life who was a Vietnam veteran. 

When you look at PTSD, getting troops inside to the VA, it‘s the same complication.  There‘s no blood test. 

I have a friend right now who joined the Army on 9/11 and went to Iraq, and he‘s suing Halliburton because he has some kind of cancer because he worked in some water chemical plant.  And it‘s a fight with the VA to say all these veterans are suing Halliburton because they have cancer, but is it connected?  And so for him to talk about this and turn his back on the people when he supports the war is preposterous. 

SCHULTZ:  Now, you wrote to the president, “It has become all too clear that Senator Simpson cannot be trusted to objectively review the budget and make impartial recommendations about our nation‘s economic priorities.  We ask that you remove him from his current position so that the commission can continue its work in a way that will give the military community and all Americans confidence in the conclusions it reaches.” 

Do you think the president will get rid of Alan Simpson? 

SOLTZ:  I hope so.  I mean, that‘s why we sent it.  If he‘s going to listen to one vets group, he should listen to one that sides with him most of the time, who did a lot to help him get elected, who does a lot to help progressive veterans in this country. 

I mean, you have a guy who‘s completely in field.  I mean, let‘s talk about Alan Simpson.  Does he get a pension from the federal government?  Let‘s talk about all the pork barrel projects that went back to Wyoming, the types of wars that he supported in Iraq, that he supported in the first Gulf War. 

I mean, they have no problem sending troops over.  But when you send troops to war, then those veterans become solely a responsibility of the federal government.  Only the federal government sends them to war. 

And this guy is so out to lunch, that he would support pork barrel projects for his own state, support his own pension plan, support his own salary that he‘s made so well off the federal government, yet turn his back on the people that he sent to war?  This is a guy that is not even in the realm of rational thought. 

SCHULTZ:  Jon Soltz, 

SOLTZ:  Thank you.

SCHULTZ:  Great to have you with us tonight.  Thanks so much. 

I think our audience agrees with you 100 percent. 

Come up, I think Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty is cracking up.  He just compared the federal government to—a drug dealer?  I‘m smoking him in the “Zone” next. 

Stay with us. 


SCHULTZ:  And in “Psycho Talk” tonight, a little bit of inside baseball first. 

You know, I like to come back to Minnesota on Fridays and do the show out of this studio, and the studio is shared by a number of other people during the week, including  Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty. 

In fact, I‘m so comfortable here, I leave some of my clothes here in one of the offices.  Well, Governor Pawlenty, he came in this morning to be on somebody else‘s show and left me a note right here in my suit pocket.

He said, “Dear Ed, Remember November.  Best, Tim Pawlenty.” 


Well, Governor, I‘m not only going to remember November, I‘m dreaming about November.  But, sorry, buddy, got to put you in “Psycho Talk” tonight.

Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, he is so wound up about running for president, he‘s abandoning his own state.  He recently signed an executive order banning Minnesota cities and businesses from applying for federal grants made available since the health care law went into effect. 

It‘s great for politics for getting the 2012 GOP nod, but it‘s terrible for Minnesota.  His state could miss out on a billion dollars in federal funds, but T.Paw has his eyes set on that 2012 prize.  He defended himself on a Fox show the other day. 


GOV. TIM PAWLENTY ®, MINNESOTA:  The federal government‘s acting increasingly like a financial drug dealer handing out free samples, trying to get people addicted, and further addicted.  And we‘ve just had it and we‘re not taking the bait anymore, we‘re not taking the free samples anymore.  This is an executive order that says we‘re sending them a strong message, but we‘re also going to try to make sure the policies are for Minnesota, not because some big federal bureaucracy tells us what to do. 


SCHULTZ:  So, if the federal government is the drug dealer, Pawlenty‘s calling the 97 Minnesota businesses and towns that applied for health care grants drug addicts. 

Comparing landmark health care reform to drug dealing is outrageous, dopey “Psycho Talk.”   

Coming up, the murder rate in some of America‘s cities is absolutely astounding.  There were 59 people killed last month in Chicago alone.  America, oh.  We can do so much better than this.  Jesse Jackson will talk solutions from Chi-town in the Battleground coming up.  

And I‘m not the only one getting into it with the false prophet loser Beck.  Robert Gibbs just absolutely ripped the phony.  I‘ll get rapid fire response.  All that, plus we‘ve got Jan Brewer.  She is at a loss for words and “Daily Show” co-creator Lizz Winstead rips the republican young guns in Club Ed tonight.  Let‘s talk about it in the next half hour of THE ED SHOW.  Stay with us.  You‘re watching MSNBC.                     


SCHULTZ:  Welcome back to THE ED SHOW.  The Battleground story tonight, well, the Iraq war I guess is over.  Combat missions.  Now we need to focus on the war being waged right here in our own city streets in America.  This morning, I woke up in Chicago on my way to the Midwest to a couple of truly disturbing headlines.  In Chicago, in “The Tribune,” front page of “The Tribune,” here it is.  Four killed in southwest side garage shooting.  And “The Sun-Times,” put the guns down.  This is what a gang leader says to his folks.  More Americans were killed in Chicago last month than have been killed in Iraq all year. 

Mr. President, I got a great idea as to where you can send those troops that you just brought home from Iraq.  How about Chicago, Illinois and a bunch of other big cities in this country?  It‘s time we look out for our own backyard, security is an issue.  We need to change the thinking in this country.  And it starts with an investment. 

Joining me now is Reverend Jesse Jackson, president of the Rainbow PUSH Coalition.  Reverend Jackson, good to have you with us tonight.  And I appreciate you doing the story.  It is an under covered story in America.  Let me just ask you, what has to be done to turn these numbers around.  Do we have I guess twisted priorities at this point?  Your thoughts?

REV. JESSE JACKSON, PRESIDENT, RAINBOW PUSH COALITION:  Well, in Iraq we commit ourselves to stability, security and economic development.  Now that the 100,000 troops have come home, there are 50,000 left to do what, stability, security and the economic reconstruction.  At home the balance is higher, but no stability secured to a plan for reinvestment.  It‘s time for a war on balance and poverty at home.  I‘m not sure the military should do it, but stability, security and reconstruction is the order of the day. 

SCHULTZ:  We have got better security in Baghdad than we do in Chicago.  Is that a fair statement?

JACKSON:  It‘s an accurate statement and as a matter of fact, we lose 30,000 a year at home to gun violence.  On this 5,000 or less were killed in Iraq in these eight or so years, 100,000 are injured who don‘t die.  There we stopped the flow of weapons.  Here we encourage Mk-16s or Mk—

Ak-47s, Mk-16 military weapons, they‘re out manning the police.  And so, we must stop the flow of weapons on the one hand.  Security and stability on the other.  Many kids can‘t go to school because of the violence.  They can‘t go to work.  They can‘t go to church.  We ought to have stability, security and a plan for economic reconstruction.  This is a time for a renewed commitment for a war on poverty and the war against violence.  

SCHULTZ:  We really don‘t have an urban policy in this country right now.  We really don‘t.  The murder rates are unbelievable.  Chicago homicides August 2010, there have been 59.  The Iraq coalition deaths so far in 2010, 46.  The source of this is the Chicago Tribune, I assume their figures are accurate.  Danger zones.  The highest murder rates in—go ahead. 

JACKSON:  Well, the context is Detroit, for example, there are 90,000 abandoned houses and vacant lots.  Why can‘t young people be trained as apprentices to be landscapers, remove boards, put up windows.  Weatherize this, put them back to work, gainful employment.  Detroit 90,000 homes abandoned or left vacant.  Detroit has not one chain grocery store, not one chain retailer store.  We‘ve abandoned urban America.  That‘s the time, as we come out of Iraq to make a commitment, to reinvest—it was Dr. King‘s great mission.  And let me say, when those veterans come home, Ed, they deserve four things, one, they deserve, a job, public or private, more time on foreclosures, a commitment to forgive the loans of their children in school and long-term counseling.  That‘s why what Mr. Simpson said was so insulting.  These veterans deserve a job, a house, security for their children, and long-term counseling. 

SCHULTZ:  Yes.  And finally, I want to bring up the police superintendent in Chicago, Jody Weis met with gang leaders, and it‘s being viewed as a very controversial meeting.  What are your thoughts on that?  I mean, they have reached out to the gang members and said, we‘re going to lock you all up and they‘re almost making a police state.  But many people think they shouldn‘t even be talking to the gang leaders.  The gang leaders are saying, they want jobs and they want federal help and if they got that, things would turn around.  Where do you come down on all of that?

JACKSON:  Well, whoever he can talk with legally that can help stop the killing, talk to them.  We went to a war in South and North Korea, we talked to the Koreans.  Talk whoever you want to talk.  Talking is important.  Also, jobs matter.  A form of housing matters.  Education matters.  And somehow, we have dismissed our obligation by making stability, security, job and job training for our youth and they deserve it.  

SCHULTZ:  Reverend Jackson, good to have you with us tonight.  Thanks so much.  And I want to tell our audience, we‘re going to have more on the story in the coming days. 

Now, let‘s get some rapid fire response from our panel on these stories.  Newt Gingrich flip-flops on government intervention.  You see the health care bill was socialism but trampling on the first amendment I guess is OK.  He wants the national government to step in and stop developers from building the Islamic community center near Ground Zero. 

The White House responds to Glenn Beck‘s absurd attacks on President Obama‘s religious beliefs.  Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says, Obama the president is a committed mainstream Christian and then he took a shot at the phony Glenn Beck.  

And a dentist from Chicago really wants Hillary Clinton to be in the White House.  She‘s forking out thousands of dollars to air a campaign commercial supporting the secretary of state for president for 2012?

With us tonight, XM Sirius radio talk show host Joe Madison and nationally syndicated radio talk show host Michael Medved.  Gentlemen, good to have you with us tonight.  Let‘s start with Newt Gingrich.  We‘ve had this big conversation.  This is a pretty big flip-flop on this Islamic cultural center, Joe.  What‘s Newt Gingrich?  What mission is he on?  How do you make these comments out?

JOE MADISON, XM SIRIUS RADIO TALK SHOW HOST:  You know, he‘s running for president of the United States.  But I read that he wanted to turn it into a battlefield or a type memorial.  And if he does that, he better worry about Disney wanting to build something there.  Look, I live in an area where they have battlefields.  They have churches near battlefields.  And what are you going to do?  Are you going to keep the pussycat lounge near this sacred battlefield?  Look, this is nothing more than a ploy to make headlines and say absurd type things. 

SCHULTZ:  Here is Newt Gingrich on the radio talking about just this. 

I‘ll let you respond, Mr.  Medved.  Here it is.  


NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER:  I think the Congress has the ability to declare the area a national battlefield memorial.  Because I think we should think of the World Trade Center as a battlefield site.  This is a war.  There are a number of different steps that could be taken.  There‘s no reason this has to occur and whether it‘s city, state or federal, there are plenty of ways for America to stop it.  


SCHULTZ:  Michael, what do you think?

MICHAEL MEDVED, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST:  The problem is Newt is supposed to be a federalist.  And if you‘re a federalist, you believe that there‘s a proper role for local government and state government and national government.  This is not a proper role for the national government.  The one thing where could you speak about this mosque or the Islamic cultural center meaningfully is talk about getting people together and move it a couple of blocks.  This is an absurd controversy.  And I think it‘s beginning to hurt our nation.  

MADISON:  Yes, I agree.  

SCHULTZ:  What do you think?

MADISON:  Well, he‘s absolutely right.  And again, we know it‘s being used to recruit all over the world.  I mean, it is an absurd conversation.  It needs to stop.  And you know, again, Newt Gingrich knows he can get headlines.  

MEDVED:  He should stop bringing people together on this because honestly people of good will can agree.  They have a perfect right to build a mosque.  And it would a better idea to build the mosque a few blocks to the north.  Why don‘t you compromise?  

SCHULTZ:  It just seems to me that Newt Gingrich is doing some serious political grandstanding on this. 

MADISON:  No doubt.  You‘re right.  

SCHULTZ:  He‘s had a number of different positions on this.  All right.  Let‘s go to Robert Gibbs. 

MEDVED:  As many as the Kama Sutra.  

SCHULTZ:  Yes.  That‘s true.  All right.  Robert Gibbs responding to Glenn Beck‘s attack on President Obama‘s Christianity.  Here it is.  


BILL PRESS, RADIO SHOW HOST:  Glenn Beck has criticized the president for believing in liberation theology which he calls a Marxist form of Christianity.  

ROBERT GIBBS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY:  People are entitled to their own opinion, as ill-informed as it may be, but they‘re not entitled to their own facts.  The president is a committed mainstream Christian.  

PRESS:  So this Marxist form of Christianity?

GIBBS:  Again, I can only imagine where Mr. Beck conjured that from.  


SCHULTZ:  Michael Medved, how does this play with conservatives?

MEDVED:  Well, look, I think it‘s wrong to attack the president based on his religious faith.  I think it‘s just flat out wrong.  It was wrong to attack President Bush based on his religious faith and it‘s wrong to attack President Obama.  I actually think that we ought to give Glenn Beck a little bit of credit because when he had all those hundreds of thousands of people in Washington, he spoke in a nonpolitical way.  He didn‘t attack President Obama‘s religion and I hope that we‘ll all consider the president‘s faith off grounds.  It should not be attacked. 

MADISON:  He sure attacked.

SCHULTZ:  Joe, what do you think?

MADISON:  Well, he attacked him on my show the day before.  And then tried to suppress the interview as much as he could.  The reality is that look, you can‘t talk about—you can‘t accept social justice.  It‘s not a religion.  Glenn Beck should read the bible and let‘s start with Amos.  Amos, a prophet who said social injustice is a sin.  Start there.  He is against the same religion that Bishop Tutu is against, that Martin Luther King Jr. is against, that Martin Luther was against.  Glenn Beck is not a theologian, he‘s not a scholar.  He should mind his own religious business and any president or any person who declares Jesus Christ as his savior, married in a Christian church, children baptized in a Christian church, again, here we are absurdity and at some point in time cut this man off.  

MEDVED:  The key thing here is we do have.  

MADISON:  Oh, please.  

MEDVED:  We do have separation of church and state in this country and we ought to have separation of religion and politics.  If your political viewpoint is informed by your own religious faith, that‘s a good thing.  But you shouldn‘t attack your opponents on issues of theology rather than issues of policy.  

SCHULTZ:  Michael Medved, Joe Madison, great to have you with us tonight.  You guys are great. 

MADISON:  Sorry to agree so much.  

SCHULTZ:  Thank you so much. 

MADISON:  Happy Labor Day.

MEDVED:  You too.  

SCHULTZ:  You bet.  Coming up, Sarah Palin slams the lame stream media.  She goes after reporters as impotent and limp.  Wasn‘t this the same person that was preaching about restoring honor just a week ago?  Stephanie Miller takes this one on as no one else can, next in the Playbook.  Stay with us.  


SCHULTZ:  And it‘s not too late to let us know what you think.  Tonight‘s text survey question is, what do you think republican politicians care more about?  Your jobs or their job?  Text A for your jobs, text B for their jobs to 622639.  Results coming up.  Stay with us.


SCHULTZ:  And in my Playbook tonight, Sarah Palin spent last Saturday turning our nation back to God and restoring honor in Washington, D.C., but on Slanthead‘s radio show, she showed just how honorable shy really is.  She attacked the media with some shots that went way below the belt. 


SARAH PALIN, POLITICAL NEWS COMMENTATOR:  I don‘t read some of it because I know that those who are impotent and limp and gutless and then they go on, they‘re anonymous.  They are sources that are anonymous and impotent limp and gutless reporters take anonymous sources and cite them as being a factual references, you know, just slays me. 


SCHULTZ:  You know what gets me on this, calling the media impotent and limp for doing their jobs, they‘re exposing you for who you really are. 

For more on this, let‘s turn to nationally syndicated radio talk show host Stephanie Miller.  Stephanie, you have the microphone.  What do you make of this latest Sarah Palin twist below the belt?

STEPHANIE MILLER, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST:  Boy, Ed, last week, you‘re right.  Restoring America‘s honor.  This week she‘s on to penis jokes.  This is what we‘ve come to.  Let‘s see, the media is limp and impotent.  I guess we‘d better get them some Cialis immediately.  And by the way, if this story lasts more than four hours in my news cycles, I‘m going to call my doctor for more drugs to listen to her voice again.  

SCHULTZ:  How do you think women are going to respond to this kind of vernacular being used by someone who is a vice presidential candidate not too long ago?

MILLER:  Well, yes, for someone that just referred to Governor Jan Brewer‘s gonads or testicles or whatever it is she called them, you know, Jan Brewer, God bless her, Ed, she‘s the only one that‘s like saved Sarah Palin from this latest news cycle from “Vanity Fair.”  She‘s the only republican woman that speaks English worse than Sarah Palin does.  Which is ironic for someone that wants to keep people out of Arizona that don‘t speak English very well.  

SCHULTZ:  What if the first lady of the United States, Michelle Obama, were to talk like this?  What kind of conservative media coverage do you think that she would get?

MILLER:  Well, of course, there would be an unbelievable outcry, Ed, you‘re absolutely right.  But, you know, the other part of it is that, you know, when you look at a Sarah Palin or a Jan Brewer or Carly Fiorina, I feel like I‘m watching a republican “Mean Girls” the movie.  You know, this “Vanity Fair” piece is exactly what we saw on display during the campaign, Ed.  It just meanness and mean spiritedness and you know, palling around with terrorists.  So you know, this is nothing new this portrait of Sarah Palin, is it?

SCHULTZ:  No, it‘s not.  And it‘s certainly not presidential.  And it just goes to show that she has a—she‘s just not a critical thinker and she doesn‘t have very good command of the English language.  I think it just goes to show that this is one of the reasons why she had to go to what, was it five or six different colleges, Stephanie?  I‘m not sure.  I lost count. 


MILLER:  Exactly.  

SCHULTZ:  Final page in our Playbook. 

MILLER:  One of those snooty once.  

SCHULTZ:  There you go.  Thanks Stephanie.  Finally page in our Playbook tonight.  And this one is a dandy, Sarah Palin and the smoking baby have something in common.  They‘re both quitters.  According to reports, the tubby Indonesian baby who stunned America last spring by puffing away on cigarettes has finally kicked the habit.  The 2-year-old baby who apparently sucked down a solid 40 smokes a day broke his addiction through a 30-day rehab program.  Isn‘t that good?

Coming up, the Beckster thinks God is sending him signs from geese flying above.  “Daily Show” co-creator Lizz Winstead is about to conduct her flyover in Club Ed next.  Stay with us.            


SCHULTZ:  Welcome back to THE ED SHOW.  If it‘s Friday, it‘s time for Club Ed with Daily Show co-creator Lizz Winstead.  You can catch her at  Lizz, great to have you with us tonight.  


SCHULTZ:  All right.  Sarah Palin—you bet.  Sarah Palin says that the lame stream media is impotent and limp.  What do you make of all of this sexual talk all of a sudden?

WINSTEAD:  Well, I mean, I just think she really has the cojones if you will to actually talk about the media at all since she, the only media she participates is in Facebook really and twitter.  And then we find out in this article, she actually has her twitter and Facebook ghost written anyway.  I mean, and how sad is it when your twitter is ghost written, Ed.  But I guess when you have no character, 140 characters is pretty daunting.  


SCHULTZ:  Sharron Angle, she‘s got new material on the unemployed and how she views them.  Your thoughts.  

WINSTEAD:  Ed, as you know and as you‘ve been talking about and I will gladly join you by the way October 2nd, I‘m there, it‘s—Nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the country.  And it‘s also a state that has legalized prostitution.  How bad is it in this country?  Does Sharron Angle not understand that if you can‘t even get a job selling sex, it‘s never been a worse place in our nation‘s history?

SCHULTZ:  Have you ever seen a better example of a political airhead than Jan Brewer?

WINSTEAD:  Jan Brewer just last night just finally answered the question that all Americans were trying to figure out.  And not being able to explain why she‘s qualified to be governor.  And when I was watching that tape, she was acting like a woman who was like at her 40-year class reunion who had had one too many drinks.  And you just—any moment, you just going to blurt out to like the high school football captain, you stole my beauty.  I used to be beautiful.  You stole everything from me.  And I.


SCHULTZ:  Oh.  All right. 

WINSTEAD:  Puff, puff.  That was a mess. 

SCHULTZ:  All right.  The flyover of the geese over the Beckster.  Was that a V for victory or was it just the best formation for them to be in to take a crap?  What do you think?


WINSTEAD:  I think that Glenn Beck who can make the geese be part of his plan, I mean, I think the V might be for vomit.  I‘m not really sure.  But, I mean, I just really think Glenn Beck, the motivational part of Glenn Beck is astounding to me because whenever I hear him speak, he sounds like a guy in a grocery store whose wife sent him there and he forgot the list.  Like I don‘t know what kind of napkin she wants.  Why did she send me here? 

Every time he speaks, he just sounds confused and angry.  

SCHULTZ:  Lizz Winstead, always great to have you with us. 

WINSTEAD:  Thanks, Ed.

SCHULTZ:  Thank you for saying, you‘ll join us in our march on October 2nd  in Washington, D.C., one nation working together, core policy principles.  Folks, it‘s going to be on my website.  Coming up appropriately, we‘re releasing it on Labor Day.  And be there and thank you for saying that Lizz.

WINSTEAD:  You bet.

SCHULTZ:  And Lizz is going to be Portland Oregon at the Alberta Rose Theater on September 10th

WINSTEAD:  September 11th.

SCHULTZ: .and on September 17th.

WINSTEAD:  September 11th.

SCHULTZ:  September 11th?


SCHULTZ:  September 11th, OK.  And September 17th, you‘re going to be performing in Seattle at the Theater off Jackson, correct?

WINSTEAD:  You got it. 

SCHULTZ:  All right.  You‘re the best.  Thanks so much. 

WINSTEAD:  Thanks, Ed.

SCHULTZ:  Tonight in our telephone text survey, we asked you, what do you think the republican politicians care more about?  Your jobs or their jobs?  Seventeen percent of you said your jobs, 83 percent of you said their jobs, I guess. 

That‘s THE ED SHOW.  I‘m Ed Schultz.  Have a great Labor Day weekend.  We‘re back with you next Tuesday in New York.  Check out the release, the march is on October 2nd.  We will get hundreds of thousands I guarantee it.  “HARDBALL” with Chris Matthews starts right now in the place for politics, MSNBC.



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