PoliticsNation, Thursday, May 16th, 2013

May 16, 2013

Guests: Errol Louis; Maggie Haberman, Donna Edwards, Dana Milbank, Nicole Lamoureux

REVEREND AL SHARPTON, MSNBC ANCHOR: Thanks, Chris. Thanks to you for
tuning in.

Tonight`s lead, the GOP jumpstart shock. Republicans are foaming at
their mouth over the IRS controversy despite the fact the president is
taking action. He is taking action to get to the bottom of it. Facts do
not matter to today`s GOP. The most extreme far right voices in the party
are leading the charts starting with Michele Bachmann.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: Earlier this week, we heard the word
impeachment tossed around here on Capitol Hill. Is that something that
should be considered?

as I have been home in my district, in the sixth district of Minnesota,
there isn`t a weekend that hasn`t gone by that someone says to me, Michele,
what in the world are you all waiting for in Congress? Why aren`t you
impeaching the president? He has been making unconstitutional actual since
he came into office.


SHARPTON: Impeach him? Is she serious? I mean, the teas party for
instance taken over the GOP and is blaming the president for every single
controversy in Washington.


SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: The unifying themes in those pattern are
number one, an arrogance and view of government. And, two number, a really
dismaying willingness to mislead and to deceive the American people.

SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: There`s something profoundly un-
American about targeting your political opponents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the AP story is taught anything, it should be
to the media that when there is a tyrannical despot, the media will be one
of the early victims.


SHARPTON: Our president, a tyrannical despot? Now, this type of talk
is ugly, but it`s not confined to the tea party wing of the party. Look
who was there today right next to Michele Bachmann. Senate majority Mitch
McConnell and today Speaker Boehner was repeating the line about the
president`s so-called arrogance.


bonds between the people and our government like the arrogance of power
here in Washington. That`s what the American people are seeing today from
the Obama administration. Remarkable arrogance.


SHARPTON: Joining me now, Richard Wolffe and Krystal Ball.

Thank you both for coming on the show tonight.

KRYSTAL BALL, MSNBC HOST, THE CYCLE: Thanks for having us, Reverend.

Krystal, let me start with you. Has the GOP gone off the deep end

BALL: Well, I think that they have never quite understood from the
election and before the election until now that the American people do not
feel the way about the president that they do. They have all this hatred
towards him and always assume the worst of him. So anything that they can
see and find that ties into their caricature o him, they grab on to and
they assume that the broader American public is going to make the same
connection. They don`t. They don`t see him that way. They like him.
They generally trust him. They think that he is doing the best that he
can. So when they make these bizarre assertions that in a lot of ways
don`t even -- contradict themselves, they are really undermining their own
point and really jumping the shark, as you put it.

SHARPTON: But, it`s almost as if they ignored the election.

BALL: Right.

SHARPTON: Because they have the same narrow tea party group, no
broader fear has saying the same venomous things against from the president
that you would think they would see from the returns last year that just
does not work with the broad base of Americans, Richard.

thing that performance works for is auditioning for "the Daily Show." You
know, all they need with pitch balls and a couple of bon fire. I mean,
what are they thinking? If they want to buck the trend of history and give
the president some seats in a midterm, they should do what Republicans did
in 1996 because, you know, in 1998, excuse me, because trying to impeach a
president, you could actually help his party gain seats. It doesn`t work.
It didn`t work then. And this kind of -- look, let`s face it. They are
saying that he`s arrogant. What am I talking about? He has just gets re-
elected as president. He`s the commander in chief. They are saying he has
an attitude?


WOLFFE: Is that what they are actually saying here?

SHARPTON: He`s uppity.

But let me go back to you for a minute, Krystal. The right wing
heritage action group is explicitly, this is serious to me, explicitly
telling Republicans to focus on scandal and not even try to pass laws.

Now, their letter -- let me read it to you -- part of it, anyway, says
we urge you to avoid bringing any legislature to the house floor that could
expose or highlight major schisms within the conference, rather than
scheduling such legislation for consideration, we urge you to keep the
attention focused squarely on the Obama administration.

So, that means let`s forget jobs, let`s not deal with the sequester,
let`s not deal with immigration, let`s keep the focus on these scandals,
none of who have in any way, shape or form, had a direct accusation by the
president or anyone in the White House, for that matter. Serious scandals
but not at the level of the Obama administration.

BALL: And I think when you mention immigration, that`s the big one.
When they are referring to things that create a schism within the
conference, that was creating the schism before we started talking about
these issues and heritage has been opposed to any kind of comprehensive
reform package that would include bringing the millions of undocumented
workers out into the shadows. And that is the thing that is really sad

I mean, there is a lot actually that is out here. But, one of the
things is that in their attempt to smear the president in any way they can,
they are shredding any little bit of goodwill that had been built up,
leading towards progress on these bills.


BALL: How can you go back to a conservative district and sell your
constituents on a bipartisan immigration plan when you`re trying to
convince them that the president is a tyrannical (ph) despot?


SHARPTON: I mean, my concern is that people is suffering. When you
look at Michele Bachmann, Rand Paul today, they use the IRS controversy to
attack the health care law. Listen to this.


PAUL: Your medical records will be evaluated by the IRS that seems to
have the ability and pension to use political persuasion and political op-
ed to search out political opponents.

BACHMANN: Could there be potential political implications regarding
health care, access to health care, denial of health care, will that happen
based upon a person`s political beliefs or their religiously health


SHARPTON: I mean, first it was the death panels pulling the plugs on
grandma. Now it is IRS agents saying you can`t get a flu shot. I mean,
what are they talking about, Richard?

WOLFFE: So, I`m a new American. And to get my citizenship, I have to
actually, you know, you get these questions about the constitution. I hear
Michele Bachmann say what`s the constitution? Last time I checked, it is
Supreme who decides what`s constitutional on that. They looked at the
health care law and said, gee, it`s constitutional.

So, this argument doesn`t work. They are not even having -- they kind
of make a statement. Even Michele Bachmann has to phrase it as a question.
Could it be? Will they do that? They don`t have the guts to say, this
will happen because they it is not true.

The White House didn`t tell the IRS to do anything because it`s
illegal because those channels do not exist. They know the IRS is not
going to use healthcare law for this because it does not happen, it will
not happen. So, they have to put these things out there in the hopes that
someone just reads the signs and sees the smoke and puts it all together in
their conspiracy-filled world. They are fueling conspiracies and they know
it. That`s why they are asking these questions.

SHARPTON: But again, and I`m going to keep saying it every night, the
commissioner in charge of the IRS when this happened was a Bush-appointed

WOLFFE: Right.

SHARPTON: If they want to ask somebody about it, ask him.

WOLFFE: Or they can ask the other guy who got fired.

SHARPTON: Yes. I mean, it`s like the oval office, someone called
down to some mid-level IRS agents and said I want to you do this. I mean,
this is absurd on this face. But a "New York Times" piece today said that
-- well, it really gave insight into what the president is thinking about
all of the GOP opposition. Let me give you this.

He says, he told donors this week, my thinking was after we beat them
in 2012, well, that might break the fever and it`s not quite broken yet.
He also said, I sure want to do some governing. I want to get some stuff
done. I don`t have a lot of time. So, it`s frustrating and it`s costing
the American people, Krystal.

BALL: That`s exactly right. And this president has gone back and
back to Republicans in good faith. I mean, to some of his critics on the
left have said he has trusted them too much. He has tried too hard to work
with them and they can`t get past their hatred of them because ultimately,
they have no solutions to offer. So, the only thing that they can fall
back on that holds their caucus together is their animus towards this

SHARPTON: Well, I mean, it does, Richard, seem like that there is no
way to work with these people. I have been one that wanted to see the
president more aggressive. I say give him time and tried his way. But
compromise with them is slim to none and slim is out of town.

Richard Wolffe and Krystal Ball, thank you for your time this evening.

And be sure to catch Krystal on "the Cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m.
right here on MSNBC.

Ahead, Republicans are spending money to repeal Obama care but they
won`t spend money to feed the poor. I`m calling them out for their skewed
fire priorities.

Plus, is Anthony Weiner ready for a comeback? Two years after his
fall from grace, he may be planning a big return to politics.

And vindication for Susan Rice. The GOP smear machine tried to drag
her down into the mud. Now she deserves an apology.

You are watching "Politics Nation" on MSNBC.


SHARPTON: Today, Republicans went on social media to drum up support
for their 37th vote to repeal Obama care. They popped in a hash tag.
Obama care in three words. To try to get people to bash the law. And the
White House had a great response.

Tweeting, quote, it`s the law. Along with a picture of the
president`s signature.

We asked our facebook friends to describe Obama care in three words,

Ann says, life saving law.

Bon says, finally I`m insured.

And Nicole says, no turning back.

She`s right.

We want to hear your three-word description for Obama care too.
Please head over to facebook and search "Politics Nation" and like us to
join the conversation that -- and your thoughts on the conversation that
keeps going long after this show ends.



and I`ve done things that I deeply regret. I`ve brought pain to people
that I care about the most and the people who believe in me. And for that
I`m deeply sorry.


SHARPTON: That was Anthony Weiner nearly two years ago but this is
now. "The New York Daily News" reports Weiner may enter the mayoral race
in New York City as soon as next week. One month ago in his first TV
interview since resigning, he said this.


WEINER: I`m thinking about it. I`m not much of a candidate yet. I
don`t have a campaign office or a campaign manager but I`m thinking about


SHARPTON: That was then. This is now. Weiner has reportedly hired a
campaign manager, brought on a press secretary, and is filling other roles.
He has had tearful confessions become a national punch line and a painful
reckoning with his wife. No question, it`s a long road back, but no
question the guy knows how to fight.


WEINER: I want to just advice people at home playing that popular
drinking game of you a take a shot every time a Republican says something
that is not true, please assign a designated driver.

I got 94 percent of my colleagues. What percentage did you get? How
did that whip organization got? How is that Cracker Jack organization
working out?

Those are the rules that exist and it`s the only reason we`re not
following it is because I didn`t get to the floor in time.

You voted favor of something you believe it`s the right thing. If you
believe it`s the wrong thing, you vote no. We are following a procedure.
I will not yield to the government and the gentleman will observe regular

If the Republicans are wrapping their arms around Republicans rather
than doing the right thing on behalf of the heroes, it is a shame. A


SHARPTON: The question is, can you put the scandal behind him and
find redemption?

Joining me now is Maggie Haberman, senior political reporter for
Politico and Errol Louis, host of New York "One Inside City Hall." He had
the first TV interview with Weiner since resigning.

Thank you both for being here today.


SHARPTON: Errol, let m go to you first. Is Weiner ready for a
comeback in New York?

LOUIS: Well, he thinks she is. He has seized up the field. He has
obviously talked to some people and has decided that now is the time. Part
of it, of course, as you know, Rev., is that Weiner was running for mayor
four years ago and he saved $4 million from that campaign. He broke off
that campaign when the scandal broke and so, he has got a whole bunch of
money that he can use actually to run this time. And so, he has got a
really head start and I think that alone makes a mysterious candidate.

SHARPTON: Well, we saw, Maggie, Sanford come back in South Carolina,
win a congressional race, (INAUDIBLE) was a district race, not a statewide
race. But, let me show you something that has some of us still on pause.
When he was asked recently, is there any chance more women could come
forward in a tweeting scandal, let me show you what he said.


WEINER: Well, I can tell you that I never met these women that are at
the end of the anonymous conversations, if reporters want to go, try to
find more, I can tell you that they are not going to be able to find
another picture or another person who may want to come out on their own.


SHARPTON: That`s not exactly no, there are no more women and what
happens if there are?

there are is we are going to have more rounds of this. I think in that
same interview which he did with Errol Louis, he said, you know, the number
I`ve said is six, six women. He is referring to a lawyer leeway back to
this past reference that is almost essentially saying I don`t really know
what could come out and what else there will be. I think it be very messy.
We are entering, however, a big unknown with this. Anthony Weiner is a
very strong campaigner historically. He is a very aggressive politician
and we are not looking at a field of, you know, what is seen as great
candidates. It`s a pretty weak field by everybody`s interpreter. Almost
everybody`s interpretation. It`s not really clear what the city wants
post Mike Bloomberg and prior to that, you know, Rudy Giuliani. So we are
looking at a very, very different type of race.

However, a couple of points. To your point about Sanford, the
mayoralty of New York City is very it`s very different than House race. It
is every different that a lot of mayoralties around the country, it`s a
very power entrenched job even before Mike Bloomberg who was the son`s
president of combination of his own money. This is not say, it is a CEOs
job. It`s a very different trusting somebody in terms of judgment. And
so, I think that`s where his big problem is going to be.

The other is going to be how calm he can stay when he`s getting
questions every day from reporters whether there are new pictures or not,
he`s had bunch of really nasty exchanges with reporters personally in the
last three months -- three weeks. That can`t continue.

SHARPTON: Well Errol, when you talk about judgment, we are talking
about redemption, we are talking about people getting a second chance it
would be hard to believe that people in New York would not have the ability
to reach redemption feelings or second chance or people of South Carolina
and then someone they are close to. Bill Clinton, who ran the country as a
CEO and people kind of got past some of his problems. They are talking
about the Clintons, it has been said that they are very close to Mr. And
Mrs. Weiner. In fact, Bill Clinton performed their marriage and you asked
Weiner whether he got advice from Bill Clinton. Let me show you this


WEINER: I`ve had conversations with the president about things and
he`s been a great source of support and friendship to me and we stayed in
touch and their whole family has been remarkably supported of ours.


SHARPTON: Errol, can he do a Bill Clinton? Can he show some humility
and seek redemption and remind people of Bill Clinton?

LOUIS: That`s the question. But, you know, if you think back to Bill
Clinton, there are a lot of people who never left his side. There are a
lot of people who thought he was getting railroaded, and there are a lot of
people who thought that the things that he got impeached over were sort of
a sideshow and not particularly important.

We don`t really know what the public in general thinks about what
Anthony Weiner did because it is really quite different in a lot of ways.
Also at that point, you know, if you remember when the impeachment happened
in the late 1990s, Bill Clinton have done a lot of things for a lot of
people. He had done quite a lot of service to the world. And that is not
something. He also campaigned all over the country and neither of those
things are true for Anthony Weiner.

So, he has got, I think, try to figure out on his own whether he,
Anthony Weiner, is in good enough graces with enough voters that he can be
credible and get back on the public stage and that`s not something anybody,
including bill Clinton, I think can do for him.

SHARPTON: Now, talking about Bill Clinton doing it for, Maggie,
"Atlantic Wires" writes that Clinton`s support for Anthony Weiner is
getting awkward given 2016 and there have been reports that Clinton`s
difference don`t want to support on that all.

Will he need the Clinton support or will, if he doesn`t get it will
that hurt some of the narrative about him being a redeeming candidate
reminding us of Bill Clinton because he needs Clinton?

HABERMAN: Well, I think it`s worth noting that the answer that he
gave Errol about Bill Clinton and that was a very good question that Errol
ask, that was the last time that Anthony Weiner answered a question about
the Clintons that way.

Extended Clinton land had raised eyebrows that he was talking about
Bill Clinton the way he had, talking to the Clintons the way he had. He is
not close to the Clintons. His wife is. A lot of Clinton world remains
furious with Anthony Weiner about what happened. They women other than his
wife. They do not love what happened. They didn`t like him before the
scandal, a lot of people.

And so, I don`t think he needs the Clintons. I think he needs the
Clintons not or people who support the Clintons not to want to see him
undercut. The Clintons were never likely to endorse in hid primary. There
are too many conflicting interests for them.

SHARPTON: Errol Louis, Maggie Haberman, thanks for your time tonight.

LOUIS: Good to see you.

SHARPTON: Still ahead, where`s the apology for Susan Rice? New
evidence shows the GOP`s smear machine that tried to bring her down was
flat out wrong.

Plus, if at first you don`t succeed to repeal Obama care, try, try,
try again, 37 times. A new vote tonight.

Stay with us.


SHARPTON: There`s a brand-nee club in the GOP, senators running
scared. Because of their votes against background checks, meet the
founding members, senators Jeff Flake, Rob Portman, and Kelly Ayotte.
After voting "no" on background checks, they saw their poll numbers tank
back home.

Flake`s approval rating plunged to a dismal 32 percent. Portman`s
took a net drop of 18 points. And Ayotte fell a net of 15 points. She was
a rising star in the GOP, but now she`s falling fast. That`s what happens
when 75 percent of your voters in your state support background checks and
you vote against it. Senator Ayotte saw that firsthand in town hall
meetings back home.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don`t want to regulate guns. (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You had mentioned that owners of gun stores,
that the extended background checks would cost. I`m just wondering why the
burden of my mother being gunned down in the hall of her elementary school
isn`t as important as that.


SHARPTON: Now, these Republicans are trying to spin their way out of
trouble. Senator Flake rushed to twitter to say quote "I`ve always
supported background checks.

Senator Portman wrote a letter to which he insisted that he did vote
in favor of a stronger background check.

And senator Ayotte wrote an op-ed page claiming I support effective
background checks.

Sounds great but it`s not really true. These senators are all trying
to pull a fast one on the public. The only thing that they actually
support is a GOP background check bill that is so weak even the NRA
supports it. Did these Republicans think we would be fooled when they
claimed they supported something they actually voted against? Nice try,
but we got you.


SHARPTON: We have breaking news. Just moments ago, House Republicans
voted to repeal President Obama`s health care law for the 37th time. They
tried and failed to roll back this same law again and again and again. You
would think that would deal with reality by now. They`ve done it so many
times, it`s starting to get well, strange.


REP. MICHELE BACHMANN (R), MINNESOTA: We see this coming just like
the titanic, we see that iceberg, only it`s not just in a mist. Shortly in
front of our eyes, we have time to turn. And that`s why we are here.
We`re here to make a turn from a train wreck.

REP. STEVE KING (R), IOWA: It is a malignant tumor metastasizing on
American liberty and must be ripped out by the rules and completely


SHARPTON: Wait a minute. I`m confused. Is Obama-care a ship? Is it
a train or is it a tumor? These Republicans, this law it will help 30
million people. These Republicans are laughable. But one thing that is
not funny is how much time and money that they`ve wasted attacking the law
of the land. The GOP has spent over 80 hours, two full work weeks trying
to repeal the health care law and it`s cost the American taxpayer $55

Republicans are spending money to repeal Obamacare. But they won`t
spend money to feed the poor. Last night a republican-led house panel
voted to cut food stamps by more than $20 billion over ten years for low-
income Americans. There`s a lot of talk about scandals in Washington. I
think the real scandal here is what the Republicans are trying to do to the
American people.

Joining me now is Maryland Congresswoman Donna Edwards and Dana
Milbank of the Washington Post. Thanks for being on the show tonight.



SHARPTON: Congresswoman, you just come from the vote on Obama-care.
Republicans are spending money, they say, that we don`t have to repeal
Obamacare but they don`t want to spend money to feed the hungry.

EDWARDS: Well, Reverend Al. I`m glad that you came on because I was
about to go to sleep yawning yet again for voting the 37 times to repeal
the affordable care act. I mean, it really is ridiculous as you say, $20
billion that`s cut from food stamps, from needy families, 134 days without
doing jams bill, failure to appoint conferees so that we can get a budget
that is fair and balanced from the American public and yet we want to take
away health care for young people at age 26 to be able to stay on their
parent`s health care plan, take away health care for seniors, who can now
for their prescription drugs.

Take away health care for life-time limits thinks like that, so that
families really can afford their kind of health care that still leverage to
them. This is really ridiculous and I guess I don`t know, maybe they will
do it another 37 times so the American public can yawn and just say, enough
of these guys.

SHARPTON: But Congresswoman, you yourself, your witness, you
personify that people that get help like food stamps can grow and do
something positive or constructive in their lives. You personally have to
do that and so have I.

EDWARDS: Well, you know, the nutrition programs that we fund, make
sure that people can get on their feet. I mean, clearly I`m not going to a
food bank now but there was a time that I needed one. And so, you know, I
think we`re just dealing with a crowded people who don`t understand the
idea of a helping hand so that people really can help themselves and they
don`t care about our nation`s children who are losing head start teachers
because of what they are doing of people who are going without healthcare
because of what they continued to do.

Thankfully, we have a President and a Senate who can just say enough
of this. They knew that this vote today wasn`t going to go anywhere with
just another opportunity to put the American public to sleep.

SHARPTON: You know, Dana, when you look at today Speaker Boehner, he
explained his party`s plans to create jobs and it was all about repealing
Obama-care. Listen to this.


REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R), OHIO: We want to improve the economy and
improve the prospects for creating jobs that are our primary focus. Jobs
is what these all about. These are the thousands and thousands of pages of
Obama-care regulations and if we want jobs, we need to get rid of this.


SHARPTON: So, their job creating plan is repeal Obama-care?

MILBANK: Reverend Al, their plan for just about everything is repeal
Obama-care. I was at a news conference this morning, and Michele Bachmann
gets up and says, the IRS scandal proves that we need to repeal Obama-care.

SHARPTON: Right. Yes.

MILBANK: So I think that, you know, this is by one count the 37th
vote. I think that`s conservative. In fact, there have been arguably more
than 40 different attempts to repeal Obama-care but maybe we should not be
criticizing the House Republicans for doing this. Because every day they
waste trying to repeal Obama-care, they are not cutting food stamps.
Perhaps we should encourage them to spend the taxpayer`s money doing this.
They`ll be of less harm to the country --


SHARPTON: Yes. But they`ll find a way to vote last night. But Dana,
you know I travel a lot. The thing that really bothers me is people are
really hurting. I mean, this is not just pundits talking on TV. Where the
rubber meets the road in this country, people need this health care -- the
things that will benefit and provide things from this health care
legislation. This is real stuff.

MILBANK: That`s right, Reverend. Well, there`s a couple of different
things we`re talking about here now. One is the immediate cuts that people
have felt already in terms of head start and other programs from the


MILBANK: The loss to these food stamps, that`s a long-term issue
starting with next year`s part of the agricultural budget in which they
actually manage to increase funds going to farmers while making larger than
ever seen before cuts to the food stamp program. So, these aren`t hurting
people right now. There`s other things doing that. This is what`s going
to happen in the future. So, I`m suggesting perhaps they should spend more
times doing pointless things, so they can`t actually get to the business of
making these cuts for the future.

Now, Congresswoman, your republican colleagues are saying that they
are deficit hawks. They want to see the deficit come down. A new CBO
report shows that the deficit has shrunk by $800 billion since President
Obama took office. That`s the fastest deficit reduction we`ve had since
World War II.

The last one, $200 billion despite all of the deficit shrinking. The
GOP is still refusing to roll back those automatic budget cuts, some of
which Dana just referred to. Here`s some local TV reports on how those
cuts are hurting real people on the ground. Look at this.


UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Cuts to the Department of Housing and Urban
Development have left thousands of low income families struggling to find a
place to live.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Getting kids like Clemaree into Head Start is about
to be become a little more difficult. Because of federal budget cuts from
sequestration, places like the Miami Valley Child Development Centers are
taking fewer kids next school year.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Thousands of meals may be cut for homebound
senior citizens. The agency`s director says, the cut comes at a time when
donations are already down.


SHARPTON: It`s real stuff, Congresswoman.

EDWARDS: Well, that`s right. And it`s really staggering. I mean,
I`ve been out in my desert where, you know, we have workers who are facing
furloughs, we have head start teachers who are -- will lose their jobs and
we won`t be able to serve those students who are most in need. We have
seniors who are dependent on meals on wheels not it`s because it`s a luxury
but because they need that to eat. And so, you know, it`s pretty
extraordinary what the GOP is doing right now.

And as I said, 134 days where we actually could be focused on creating
jobs and opportunity for the American people, and instead, this is the
garbage that we get out of this leadership and it`s the garbage that we get
out of this Republican Party and I think the American people are easily
seeing through that because we all know that have greater levels of poverty
that we`ve ever had before at least since the great depression.

We have more children who are in need of a meal and it`s what they
depend on when they go to school every day and here we are cutting those
things but repealing Obama-care and the reality is the health care law is
actually contributing to reducing the deficit because we`ve managed to
bring down health care costs.

SHARPTON: And you said the operative word, the health care law. It`s
the law.

EDWARDS: It is the law.

SHARPTON: Even the Supreme Court upheld it. It is the law, it`s not
only the right thing to do, it`s the law. Congresswoman Donna Edwards and
Dana Milbank, thank you for your time.

EDWARDS: Thank you.

MILBANK: Thank you.

SHARPTON: Ahead, what had President Obama laughing out loud on his
recent trip to New York? And before the facts came out, they smeared Susan
Rice`s name. They went after her in an ugly way. Why they should be
ashamed. That`s coming up.


SHARPTON: "Saturday Night Live" is the home of the presidential and
press the nation. Joe Piscopo played Ronald Reagan, there was Dana Carvey
hilarious role as George H.W. Bush and Phil Hartman`s unforgettable
portrayal of Bill Clinton. Will Ferrell absolutely perfected the role of
George W. Bush. And today Jay Pharoah making us laugh as Barack Obama.
Earlier this week, the real president came face-to-face with the "SNL"
version of the president. The New York Post reports, they met at a New
York fund-raiser and Jay had the President rolling when he broke out bits
like this.



JAY PHAROAH, COMEDIAN: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.


He makes me laugh.

Allow me to reintroduce myself. I`m the president. That`s
incredible. I`m so in love with you.

That was fun, right?



SHARPTON: I can`t get enough of that. And, hey, that reminds me, any
time you want to join us, open invitation.


SHARPTON: We reported that House Republicans voted earlier tonight
for the 37th time to repeal Obama-care and governors across the country are
refusing it, 20 states oppose expanding Medicaid. They are turning down up
to $90 billion for low-income families to get care. Money that could save
lives. This is the real scandal in our country. The government turning
its back on Americans, millions can`t afford care, some have never seen a
doctor. It isn`t fair. It isn`t right. And it isn`t America.

And we`re doing something about it. We`re partnering with the
National Association of Free Clinics. We`ll have a special edition of
"POLITICS NATION" from a free clinic in New Orleans on July 3rd. And MSNBC
has been part of this for four years, sponsoring eight free clinics. They
offer full physicals, free prescriptions, mental health counseling,
mammogram services and much more. It`s about taking care of each other.


UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Clinics in the city, you know, even though we`re
employed, you know, they still want to charge 25 to $50 just to be seen and
we don`t have the money.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: It`s so hard and doctors are so expensive,
especially medications are very, very high. So, I came to see what I can

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Well, if you don`t have any money to go to a
doctor, you don`t get to go.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: This is a great opportunity for most people to have
the opportunity to see a doctor.


SHARPTON: That is America. That is helping each other. And we need
your help to make it a success again this year.

Joining me now is Nicole Lamoureux, the executive director of the
National Association of Free Clinics. Our partner for the clinic on July
third. Nicole, thanks for being here.

Thanks so much, Rev. I appreciate it.

SHARPTON: Well, we`re so happy to be part of this great work you`ve
been doing. Tell us what it`s like at across America at your clinics these

LAMOUREUX: Let me just tell you, I couldn`t be happier to be with you
today. After the Republicans decided to repeal the affordable care act yet
again, I`m here to tell you that my clinics across the country, we are sick
and tired of it. We have patients lining up outside the door. Eighty
percent of our patients come from a working household. They are working
every single day. They do not need a hand out. They`d like a hand up and
that`s why we are hearing. That`s why we`re partnering with you and that`s
why we`re asking people to volunteer and donate for this clinic in New
Orleans because it`s our job to take care of our neighbors. That`s what
we`re here for.

SHARPTON: Did I hear you say 80 percent of working, 80 percent have

LAMOUREUX: Eighty percent of the patients who come to free clinics
across the country and our one day clinics have jobs. They are not just
lazy people doing nothing. They are working every day. They are making
that choice between putting food on the table or getting health care and no
one should make that choice. Health care should be a right. Not a

SHARPTON: That`s right. What kind of diagnosis have you seen?

LAMOUREUX: You know, Rev, I have to tell you, the last time we were
in New Orleans, my heart broke. A woman found out that she had stage four
breast cancer on the convention center floor. I had a gentleman walked up
to me, hand me a bottle of pills and a big bottle of alcohol and said, if
you weren`t here, I was going to kill myself. This is reality. This is
what we should do. We all need to remember that there by the grace of God
go I. At any point in time or health care could be taken away from us.

That`s why we`re inviting everyone to join us on July 3rd. You can go
to our website www.nafcclinics.org top volunteer and donate. We need your
help. We can`t take this lying down. The story may not be outside all of
the time but let me tell you, when you hear people say to me, I can`t
afford it, I can`t afford $4 meds because I don`t know where my next meal
is coming from because I`m too busy paying my bills, we`re here to help.
That`s what we`re going to do. That`s what you`re helping us do. That`s
what MSNBC is helping us to do.

SHARPTON: You know, what are people that come out saying to you.

LAMOUREUX: Oh my gosh. They hug me, that`s the first thing they do.
They hug and they say, thank you and you know what the most amazing thing
is, after the patients get the help they need, they look at me and say, can
I volunteer now? Can I help somebody else get this help? That speaks
volumes. Grateful. That`s what everyone is -- they`re just so grateful
that someone took the time to understand that they are working hard,
they`re being productive members of society but they just can`t afford that
health care.

SHARPTON: What can the viewers, POLITICS NATION viewers do to help?
What can those at home wherever they`re watching us, do to help this?

LAMOUREUX: They can join us in this fight. We are inviting you all
to come volunteer and we`re asking you to please be generous again like you
have so many times and donate to make this clinic a reality and information
can be found at our website at the nfacclinics.org. And I know Rev. Al,
you`ve been so great, you`re putting it up on your website as well.

SHARPTON: Absolutely. And I`ll be there July 3rd with you. You
know, let`s talk about how donations will be used.

LAMOUREUX: Sure. I think that it`s important to realize for every
dollar donated to our clinics, $5 in services are given to patients. So
the money that comes straight to us, we go ahead and give it right back to
the patients. If you give us $100, 20 patients can get everything they
need from a physical, lab exams, to prescriptions, to connection to local
resources because you know, Rev, one of the most important things is, this
is not a one in done deal. After they get through our clinic, we connect
them where they can go and see a doctor after we leave.

SHARPTON: Nicole, I want to show our viewers how they can help.
There are many ways to donate a sign up for an appointment. Go to
on.MSNBC.com/urgentcarepn or National Association of Free Clinics site at
nafcclinics.org. We need your help to make this a success. Special
edition of POLITICS NATION live from New Orleans clinic on Wednesday July

Nicole Lamoureux, we look forward to it. We look forward to working
with you. Thank you for everything you do.

LAMOUREUX: Thank you, Rev.

SHARPTON: Ahead, the facts are out so where is the apology? We`re
calling for it, next.


SHARPTON: Last fall, Republicans claimed U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice
misled the country about the attack on our consulate in Benghazi.


UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: With the comment she made on our Sunday shows,
that was either incompetence or blatantly misleading the American people.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: She`s the point person and so disconnected to
reality, I don`t trust her.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: If this select committee, if appointed, clears her
of any wrongdoing besides not being very bright.


SHARPTON: Not being very bright? Incompetent? These were ugly
personal attacks on a woman who has devoted her life to public service and
who has excelled at virtually everything she`s done in her life. Americans
were outraged and so was the president.


PRES. BARACK OBAMA (D), UNITED STATES: When they go after the U.N.
ambassador, apparently because they think she`s an easy target, then
they`ve got a problem with me. To smirch her reputation, it`s outrageous.


SHARPTON: The attacks were outrageous and now we have proof that they
were wrong, too. The White House has now released e-mails debunking the
GOP myth that there was a cover-up about the attack in Libya. "The
Washington Post" says, the e-mail show the administration`s response did
not include political interference from the White House.

Susan Rice was using talking points that reflected the administration
consensus at that time and the e-mails appeared to support that. The GOP
smear campaign against Ambassador Rice was vicious, personal and wrong.
That`s why she deserves an apology but I won`t hold my breath.

Thanks for watching. I`m Al Sharpton. "HARDBALL" starts right now.


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