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The Ed Show for Sunday, July 7th, 2013

Read the transcript to the Sunday show

July 7, 2013
Guests: Kasim Reed, Fred Redmond, Cupid

ED SCHULTZ, HOST: Good afternoon, Americans. Welcome to THE ED SHOW, live
from the Essence Festival in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Let`s get to work.



SCHULTZ: If you think racism is dead in America, I would make the case
that you need to think again because this is all about race.

Americans are usually the last hired and first fired.

BILL O`REILLY, FOX NEWS: Do you really believe it`s a skin color issue
rather than a performance issue?

CHRIS TUCKER, ACTOR: I will slap you, man. I will slap the hell out of
you. You don`t play with me. You don`t know who you`re messing with it.

SCHULTZ: The facts are very clear. It`s harder for African-Americans to
get good jobs in this country and a good education.

creates good middle class jobs, but rewards hard work and responsibility.
That`s our North Star.



SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MINORITY LEADER: Mr. President, where are the

OBAMA: Our businesses have created nearly 7 million jobs.

We have all the ingredients for success.



SCHULTZ: Good do have you with us. You know if you watch this program
over the years, THE ED SHOW, I`m all about workers, I`m all about those
folks who take a shower after work.

The Republicans simply are not. In fact, Republicans have been waging an
unprecedented attack on labor and the middle class in this country. Labor
has been under attack for the last 30years. You could even make the case
that it started before Reagan.

Labor is undoubtedly the backbone of America. That is what built this
country. And when facing tough economic times, our history tells us
something was done.

FDR instituted the National Labor Relations Board. Ironically on Friday,
it was the 78th anniversary of the development of the National Labor
Relations Board. Now, Senator Mitch McConnell who heads up the righties in
the Senate and his minions once again are trying to destroy that very

This would leave American workers, whether in a union or not unprotected
and it would seriously hinder the growth of our economy and to turn this
economy around, we need to focus on labor issue, better wages and better

Here`s more.


SCHULTZ: If you`re in the middle class, if you`re a wage earner, I`m your
guy. Let`s get that straight. I have a passion for building the middle
class in this country.

One week after Governor Scott Walker announced his plan to gut the middle
class of Wisconsin, we saw the biggest protest to date in the capital city
of Madison.

GOV. SCOTT WALKER (R), WISCONSIN: We`re not going to allow for one minute
the protesters to feel like they can drown out the voices of those millions
of taxpayers all across the state of Wisconsin.

SCHULTZ: They know that they are on the correct side of the issue. They
know that this is about fairness. They know this is about what America is
all about, the right to collective bargaining.

OBAMA: I am sending this Congress a plan that you should pass right away.
It`s called the American Jobs Act.

SCHULTZ: The president wants to create jobs by repairing crumbling
infrastructure in this country.

OBAMA: Mr. Boehner, Mr. McConnell, help us rebuild this bridge.


Help us rebuild America.

SCHULTZ: McConnell and Boehner, they have fought this president on every
proposal that he has ever put on the table.

MCCONNELL: What the president proposed so far is not serious and it`s not
a jobs plan.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we need to do is make sure that the workers reject
SB-5 and reject on Issue 2, vote no on Issue 2.

GOV. JOHN KASICH (R), OHIO: What`s driven my negatives up is the fact that
we`re trying to rein in and give local communities the ability to control
their cost with public employees.

SCHULTZ: I tell you what, I got a chair for the governor right here.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today, they look down on us like we`re the ones
draining the middle class of all the money. You know, I don`t see us
getting big pay raises. I don`t see us getting big bonuses.

SCHULTZ: In a landslide issue number 2 has been defeated. The union-
busting Senate bill will not become law in the state of Ohio.

KASICH: You know, when you get beat, you have to admit it and you got to
congratulate and shake the hands of those folks who prevailed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today is my last day working across the street at
Sensata and a few minutes I`ll walk over and sign papers and hand in my

SCHULTZ: We came to broadcast outside the Sensata auto parts plant here in
Freeport. Sensata closed the doors of the plant for the entire weekend,
and the entrances are barricaded. Workers told not to report.

None of these workers will report to the factory when it closes in
December. Those jobs, they`re headed a long way away, a place called

OBAMA: Keep in mind that Governor Romney invested in companies pioneers of
outsourcing to China.

SCHULTZ: Mitt Romney, believes in this. He believes in outsourcing. He
has no loyalty to American workers.

Sir, what would you say to Mitt Romney?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If transferring wealth to the top 2 percent created
job, wouldn`t we be swimming in them already?

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VERMONT: If there is no NLRB, those workers will
have no rights and I think that is a terrible, terrible thing.

SCHULTZ: The National Labor Relations Board is the government agency set
up to protect American workers from bad bosses, abusive corporate owners.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, corporate law firms like
ones right down the street behind us, they are absolutely determined that
this president won`t have a democratic majority on the NLRB during the
entire second term.

SCHULTZ: The Senate has really has not fully staffed the board for nearly
a decade. Why? Because there`s an attack on labor.


SCHULTZ: Well, folks, are you convinced yet? Do you believe that there
has been an attack on labor?

Those were clips over the last five years here on THE ED SHOW, and now,
we`re at the pinnacle point in my opinion when you look at the total
destruction of the National Labor Relations Board. This has been a
systemic approach by the Republicans over years to get to this point to
totally erase out any kind of labor law. You look at the number of states
that are going right to work and all the legislation that`s being offered
up by radical governors who were attacking wages, blaming middle class
workers for the financial woes of each one of their states.

They want to put it on the back of the workers. They want to take away
their voice in the workplace and now what they want to do is take away the
overriding board that decides labor law in this country. They want to
destroy it and the way they`ve done it is through obstruction, not giving
President Obama the nominees he wants. And so, now, we`re down to one
member on the National Labor Relations Board that is supposed to have five
appointees that are political, three Democratic and two Republican based on
who`s in the White House.

But, of course, they won`t give that to President Obama. So the last
person on the Labor Relations Board, his term will end on august 1st just a
few weeks away, and then what? Do you really think between now and 2016
that the Republicans are going to step to the plate and help President
Obama put together what FDR started 78 years ago? The answer is hell no.

This is about attacking workers. This is about attacking minorities. This
is about keeping the working folk down, concentrating the wealth, more
corporate power, and a restrictive approach when it comes to growing our

Now, with all of that, we have added 40 months of private sector job growth
with no help from the Republicans. We`ll talk about that in the next

But I want this country, every American, to understand that you don`t have
to be in a union to be affected by the National Labor Relations Board,
because if there`s no overriding arbitrator. If there`s no overriding
board that can make decisions in disputes and make labor law and enforce
things on behalf of workers, what do we have? We have a free-for-all in
the economy. We have the only recourse of having what`s known in the old
days as total general strikes, which would be the worst thing that could
ever happen to this economy.

So, as so many people put the economy on the back of President Obama, what
we need to realize is that, yes, there`s been a bunch of filibusters in the
senate but there has also been a systemic attack on workers and now they`re
trying to strip away the institution of the National Labor Relations Board.

It`s a serious issue. Get your cell phones out. I want to know what you

Today`s question: if Republicans kill the NLRB, should organized labor
start a general strike? Text A for yes, text B for no to 67622, you can
always go to our blog at We`ll bring you the results later
on in the show.

I`m joined here in New Orleans by Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, and the
international vice president of the United Steel Workers, that is Fred

Gentlemen, great to have you with us.

We need to focus is on how serious this is.

Mayor Reed, your thoughts on the destruction of the board.

MAYOR KASIM REED (D), ATLANTA: My thoughts is we need to act like it`s
urgent. There are a very small number of people who are acting like this
is a big deal aside from you and aside from labor. And people who are not
in unions need to wake up and get it.

The NLRB has oversight for 80 million American jobs and whether you`re in a
union or not, your wages are impacted by how the NLRB behaves and how labor
is treated. So when labor is treated well, even if you`re not in a union,
you need to care about this.

And we can`t make the mistake isolating this into an organized labor
argument. If you have a job, if you`re one of the folks sitting in the
mainstream who walks around believing that labor doesn`t impact you, you`re
wrong. The reason that wages have been so stagnant, the reason that
there`s 2 trillion in capital sitting on the sidelines is because there`s
no energy to raise wages and pay people what they`re worth.

So this NLRB standing impacts every single person that`s watching this
show. You got to get in the game.

SCHULTZ: Fred Redmond, the steelworkers have been on the front line of all
of this for a long time. What would it mean not having an NLRB? What
would that leave for workers in their future?

FRED REDMOND, UNITED STEEL WORKERS: Well, first of all, Ed, the mayor is
exactly right. The NLRB has not been designed to promote issues that
affect organized labor. Over 85 million workers that work for private
employers are covered by the National Labor Relations Act and only function
of the National Labor Relations Board is to enforce the provisions of that
act and that act gives workers what we consider workplace democracy, give
them the right to minimum wage, the NLRB set minimum wage laws, set laws
for parental leaves, give workers the right to join the union if they elect

But as far as the steelworkers are concerned, what this means, Ed, is many
cases that we have pending in the NLRB will not be resolved. We got cases
of workers that have been locked out, workers that have tried to join our
union and at the end -- interfered with by the employers and these sort of
issues to the steelworkers will be left unresolved if the Republicans get
away with this.

SCHULTZ: Stripping away worker protections, that`s what this is.
Stripping away the governing body that protects workers in America to give
them an avenue of grievance. But when you look at the systemic approach of
what has happened while the conservatives are trying to get rid of the
NLRB, here they are with six Republican radical governors who made it their
focal point and their future to go after public employees and take away
their voices in the workplace, what we saw in measure 2 in Ohio.

What about the number, Fred, of right to work legislation, the number of
states that are doing this? How can we not view this as some major game
plan on their part?

REDMOND: Well, we have to view it as a major game plan because right to
work was historically contained the states in the South. But now when we
look at the attempts that`s been made in places like Ohio and Indiana where
right to work legislation has been put forward, then we see this as a
spreading phenomena, which give workers the right as we say to work for
less which takes away their right to collective bargaining and take away
their right to have a voice in the workplace.

So, you know, the irony of this, Ed, when we look at what`s happening in
the Congress today and in the Senate regarding the appointments by
President Obama, the irony of this is, 38 companies have signed on to
legislation that would go forward to try to outlaw through the D.C. circuit
the president`s ability to make recess appointments. Of those 38
corporations that signed on to briefs supporting that decision of the D.C.
courts, those 38 companies combine have gave $6 million in campaign
contributions --


REDMOND: -- to Republicans.

So we have to look at this, Ed, as another attempt by the publicans. This
time not to put forth legislation against workers but to be inactive in
legislation that would help workers.

SCHULTZ: How does this restrict job growth in the inner city, Mayor?

REED: Well, it restricts job growth because it`s having a significant
impact on public sector polite. Really as we`ve gone through the worst
economy in many years something very unusual happened. We actually had a
retraction of more than 400,000 employees during the worst of the worst.

Generally during the worst of the worth that`s when you actually need your
public sector employees. You need to focus on infrastructure,
construction, roads, bridges. We actually did the opposite and because of
Republican intransigence, we`ve had to lay off mass numbers of public
sector employees and it`s impacting the economy and it`s affecting people
in cities across America.

SCHULTZ: And this inherently affects more minorities in this country, does
it not?

REED: There`s no question. I mean, obviously, any time you have a spike
in unemployment, black people and people of color historically are
disproportionately impacted but if you go back and certainly look at the
presidency over the last 30 years when we`ve had economic downturn, there
was a surge in public sector employment even under President George Bush.
Just the opposite has occurred in the last four years.

SCHULTZ: It`s been an attack, no question.

REED: No question.

SCHULTZ: Fred, what`s the game plan to turn this around? What can be

REDMOND: Well, first of all, we have to do exactly what the mayor said and
make the case that this is not just a labor issue. This is an issue that
has potential of affecting 85 million workers in the private sector around
this country. So what we have to do is mobilize not just organized labor
but workers around this country to make sure that they let their senators
know from their respective areas that we expect to have redress through the
National Labor Relations Board as we have over the last three years.

SCHULTZ: So, for workers, 2014 may be one of the biggest years ever.

REDMOND: No question. No question it`s one of the biggest years ever,
but, Ed, you know, this is -- this is the epitome of the attack and
attacking workers throughout this country. So we have to stand up with
workers throughout this country and make sure our voices are heard.

SCHULTZ: All right, gentlemen, it`s great to have you with us. Mayor
Kasim Reed --

REED: Thank you.

SCHULTZ: -- and, Fred, always great to have you, Fred Redmond from the
International Steelworkers, thanks so much.

Remember to answer today`s question there at the bottom of the screen, and
share your thoughts on Twitter @EdShow and on Facebook. We want to know
your thoughts on this subject and how important it is.

America`s adding jobs but here in New Orleans, the picture is bleak for
many African-American men and I`ll ask a panel how we get back on track.
You`re watching THE ED SHOW live from New Orleans.

Stay with us. We are right back.


SCHULTZ: Welcome back to THE ED SHOW here in New Orleans.

In today`s "Rapid Response", we begin with Friday`s job numbers. Employers
are becoming I would say a little bit more confident about the economy. I
mean how do you really argue with the numbers? According to the latest
report we have added 195,000 jobs in the last month, keeping the
unemployment rate steady at 7.6 percent. There were some who said it would
never go below 9.

This is good news for the president. It`s good news for the Democrats.
It`s good news for the country.

And even better news, revisions show that the numbers in April and in May
were better than were originally reported.

Now, what we have seen is 40 months, 4-0, 40 months of consecutive job
growth in the private sector while President Obama has been constantly
vilified by conservatives about he doesn`t know anything about the private
sector or helping businesses out.

The key here is that there has been no help, no coordination, no
cooperation with Republicans in any of this economic run to bring us out of
what we were involved in.

Now, Republicans have been busy -- what are they doing? Well, they`re
wasting America`s time and money and focus by going after anti-abortion
legislation and repealing Obamacare which simply is not going to happen.
But it`s a hell of a headline if you`re writing.

There could be a lot more positive growth if Congress would take their
responsibility as seriously as they pick up their paychecks.

For more let`s turn to our panel, Joy Reid and Dr. James Peterson.

Great to have both of you here.

JOY REID, THEGRIO.COM: Good to be here.

SCHULTZ: What do these numbers mean? What do 40 months mean?

REID: Right. If this were a normal recession, Ed, what you would have had
was, you know, that deep decline, you remember that bikini drop, where you
have the steep decline, 750,000 jobs. In a normal recession, you would
pump incredible amounts of federal money at that because what you have to
do, you see the demand in the private sector is withdrawn, something has to
fill it.

If the consumer doesn`t fill it typically that`s what the government does,
even with George W. Bush did, and that`s what you saw TARP, et cetera.
What we did is we started to withdraw that stimulus as soon as Republicans
took over the House and haul the stimulus.

So you`ve seen this steep drop-off. This is the first recession in the
modern history of this country where public sector employment has declined.
We initially --

SCHULTZ: In federal jobs.

REID: In federal jobs.

What we initially did help the states keep their teachers, nurses, keep
their firefighters on the job. That`s what stopped us from going into a
depression but at the federal level, Congress keeps putting pressure to
reduce and reduce and reduce federal employment disproportionately hurts
the economy, women, et cetera.


SCHULTZ: So, James, what kind of economic record could any Republican
candidate put forward in front of Americans?

PETERSON: What they put forward to their base is that we`re starving
government. Remember, that`s what they want to do. You can see that at
the state level. All the Republican executives of different states are
doing exactly like our economy. I think we shed 5,000 jobs at the federal

So while we`re growing the private sector consistently for 40 months, which
is great for the economy, imagine how much more robust it would be if we
had cooperation between private and public sectors especially at the
federal level.

SCHULTZ: Would another stimulus package really change things?

REID: Listen if --

SCHULTZ: The president talks about infrastructure.

REID: Absolutely.


REID: If we were being rational about the economy right now, what we would
be doing is looking at the fact we have bridges literally collapsing. We
have roads that are impassable. We have an infrastructure problem that in
the Eisenhower era would have been addressed by building a massive highway
program that would give people jobs.

SCHULTZ: So, we look, I want to tie this into our next topic because here
in the city of New Orleans, unemployment is higher than expect. More than
half of working age African-American men in this city were unemployed
according to the most recent census.

Now, this is a dramatic increase in unemployment over the past 30 years.
But we should point out over the last 30 years it was not the starvation of
government or the starvation of infrastructure projects. The mayor of New
Orleans recently released a five-year plan by helping to attract better
paying jobs in the city which calls for workforce training and support
programs for small businesses.

Back to the panel, the both of you on this -- is there any program in an
inner city that would turn the unemployment numbers around? I mean how
would you do that on a state level or a local level? I mean, I have some
ideas on it.

PETERSON: Absolutely. Well --

SCHULTZ: You`d have to earmark a sales tax. That`s what I would do. A
quarter-cent sales tax on municipalities that would be earmark money for
jobs programs.

That`s just me talking. It would have to be done on a local level.

Your thoughts.

PETERSON: That could work. I mean, remember, even the jobs growth that
we`re seeing right now are jobs in hospitality and service sectors which is
not high paying jobs. If you complement that with public works jobs, the
kind of jobs Joy`s talking about. Obviously, the city of New Orleans could
stand to use an infusion of infrastructure, federal dollars to help rebuild
what has been destroyed and not repaired since Katrina.

SCHULTZ: But, Joy, why do you think the numbers among African men is
higher in this city?

REID: Yes. I mean, even in the city, but let`s look quickly nationally.
White unemployment, white male unemployment, about 6.2 percent. White
female, about 6 percent. African-American female 12 percent. Black
unemployment male about 13.

But if you look at the youth number, 16 to 19, teenage unemployment, it`s
about 43 percent for African-Americans and in the city of New Orleans
exceptionally high. But look where we are right now. In a building named
for Marc Morial`s father because he brought this convention center to New
Orleans and the idea it brought the jobs with it, all the people that had
to construct put together and operate this facility, that
disproportionately helps younger workers.

And we do also have a STEM deficit. We don`t have young people able to do
the job we`re outsourcing to India. We need to be training young people
starting in high school to do STEM job, research and science.

SCHULTZ: In that last segment -- well, there you go.

In the last segment, we were talking about the outsourcing of the jobs. We
should point out that 60 percent decline in manufacturing jobs in this

PETERSON: That`s right.

SCHULTZ: When you talk about an industrial revolution, the best place to
do it is where there`s people who are willing to work.

REID: Exactly.

SCHULTZ: But when you have capital which is hard to get and minorities
can`t get the capital --

REID: That`s right.

SCHULTZ: -- because they don`t have the resources to back them up if
business doesn`t go well, what else can we do other than some kind of
public/private partnership involved with federal money to turn these
numbers around?

PETERSON: I think it has got to start there but also long-term we have to
level the playing field in terms of corporations. A lot of reasons you see
the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs we allow corporations to give tax
breaks to outsource those jobs. So, we need to incentivize American
corporations to hire American workers right here.

SCHULTZ: The Democrats had a proposal on the table reward companies for
bringing jobs back and they voted it down.


REID: I was just going to say that and the president had that too. What
they wanted to do was an in-sourcing credit. Essentially, if you instead
of outsourcing those manufacturing jobs to India or to Mexico or to
somewhere else, if you do it with Americans who want to work looking for
jobs, then we would give you a tax credit. Republicans don`t want to do

SCHULTZ: Both of you are great. Great to have you with us. Always
excellent insight.

Joy Reid, James Peterson, here on THE ED SHOW in New Orleans.

The crowd here at the Essence Festival has a lot to say on this topic and
we`re going to be hearing from them coming up.

But next, we`ll have the latest on the crash of Asiana Flight 214. Stay
tuned. Stay with us.


SCHULTZ: Welcome back to THE ED SHOW here in New Orleans. We`re at the
19th Annual Essence Festival here in the city, the Crescent City, which is
fantastic and we`ll talk some more with the folks here in just a moment.

But first we are going to get the latest details on the deadly plane crash
in San Francisco last night.

NBC`s John Yang joins us live with the latest.

John, what do we know?

JOHN YANG, NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Ed, we know that the NTSB Go Team has
been working all night working through the night continuing to work today
looking at that burned out fuselage that`s broken apart that`s what`s left
of Asiana Flight 214.

They`ve got the black boxes now back in Washington. They flew them there
overnight. They`re going to be looking and analyzing the data in there,
the performance of the plane, listen to the cockpit conversations, to what
the pilots were saying when this all was happening.

Essentially trying to find out what happened, why this plane came in
essentially too slow, too low, the tail hitting the seawall separating the
San Francisco Bay from the airport and the runway and then slamming on to
the runway and skidding down and lost the tail assembly, it lost landing
gear before skidding off the runway.

We also know this morning that the two victims, the two people killed in
this crash are 16-year-old girls from China. They were part of one of two
school groups from Chinese middle schools who were coming here for summer
camp which included visits to some of the college campuses here in the
northern California area.

Meanwhile, more than about four dozen passengers are still in the hospital
with injuries to varying degrees. We know at least five of them are in
critical condition, one of them an infant -- Ed.

SCHULTZ: John Yang reporting from San Francisco here on THE ED SHOW.
Thanks so much.

Stick around. We`ll have more from the Essence Festival after this.

You`re watching THE ED SHOW on MSNBC.


SCHULTZ: Welcome back. We`re coming to you live from the Essence Festival
here in New Orleans, Louisiana.

We have talked a lot on this show about jobs, infrastructure, investment,
tight credit, access to capital, helping small businesses -- all of the
things that will help the little folk of America do better in our economy.
But with all of this obstruction and all of this focus trying to make sure
that President Obama is a failure, the question comes up, what`s the plan?

Now, we had a stimulus package where only three Republicans ended out
helping in 2009. We had the recovery of the automobile industry which
people on the conservative side were ready to say, let`s leave it for dead.

We`ve seen a reinvestment in education. We`ve seen a priority list from
the president. We`ve seen 40 months of private sector job growth, but
still unemployment among minorities in this country is very high.

I say it`s all about access to capital. I say the American dream is being
robbed by a lot of people because of the concentration of wealth in this
country. And what we try to do on this program is focus on the folks, on
the people, what they say.

Where is their pulse for America right now? Do they not have the spirit to
want to do better? Do they want to be run out of their homes by big banks
who get all the money so cheap from the fed?

I mean it was just a story last week, we have decided to raise interest
rates on students, in fact, we`ve decided to double them. While the
Congress goes home on vacation, we`re turning to the young people of
America saying, "You know what, you`re not paying enough. We need to raise
the rates on you."

This is what`s frustrating all Americans. It is a lack of fairness.

Now, on this program I have shown time and time again what I call the
vulture chart where you see the middle class wages in this country have
been depressed for 30 years, and I think it`s in relationship to the attack
on labor, where you have seen corporate profits go through the roof, where
are those profits going? They`re not going to the folks. They`re not
going to the workers as they depress wages and attack workers` rights what
do we have? We`re seeing what John Edwards said a long time ago -- two

Now, how do we turn it around? The first thing we have to do is get a
Congress aware that it`s not about them, that it is about the people and
the people do care and the people are going to react.

But, wait a minute, maybe the Republicans know that and now they`re
attacking not only voices in the workplace, they`re attacking voter rights.
They`re going after their voices at the polls. They`re going to make it
harder for the poor, they`re going to make it harder for the small people
in the rural areas to have access to show their voice and vote.

So there is this systemic approach by the wealthy of the country to keep it
just the way it is.

Now, if you`re a conservative, the world is pretty good. Corporate profits
are where we want them. We`re depressing voting rights. We`ve got
minorities right where we want them. We`re not investing in our
communities. We`re not investing in bridges.

I do think we have a few bridges in this country that could probably have a
do-over, but we can`t do that. We got to make sure that we give more money
to e wealthiest Americans. That`s what Mitt Romney ran on.

Well, Mitt Romney was defeated. So, their plan now is to defeat President
Obama and stop everything.

I will make the case to you that is not where America is that these folks
care about their communities, they care about their schools, they care
about the future and they care about what kind of country they`re going to
leave their kids.

But maybe I`m wrong. Let`s hear from them.

Your thoughts on what is going on in America right now. What do we have to
do to continue the economic growth? What`s your name?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My name is Kim Joiner-Shuler.

SCHULTZ: Where are you from, Kim?


SCHULTZ: Oh, you got a lot going on down in Austin, Texas, as of late,
don`t you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, it`s been historical in the last couple of weeks
with the voter and then the -- what`s the --

SCHULTZ: Attack on women`s right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Attacks on women`s rights and we really have to worry
about getting Rick Perry out of office. So --

SCHULTZ: What does America need right now?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Structure. We need to put people back to work. We
need to decrease the student loan, the student loan hikes is a disgrace.
And we need to make sure that we extend the voters right for all
minorities. I know that President Bush extended it before he left office,
but we need to make it a mandate. It shouldn`t be an expiration date on

SCHULTZ: Do you agree with that, folks?


SCHULTZ: Very good.

Your thoughts? Your name?


SCHULTZ: Betsy, where are you from?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMLAE: East St. Louis, Illinois.

SCHULTZ: East St. Louis, Illinois.

Well, tell me about your America. What do you think? What has to happen?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe we need more jobs and especially in the
minority areas where we`re really suffering. I also believe we need more
structure. I believe politics plays a huge role in it and they`re very
selfish and for themselves instead of the communities, and it`s all about
the people of America, where the focus should be, and we really need to get
back to that so that everyone can be stable and provide for their families.

SCHULTZ: Great. Great to have you with us.

Your name?


SCHULTZ: Where are you from?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: East St. Louis, Illinois.

SCHULTZ: Your thoughts on America right now. What do we need?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need basically what everyone is staying, we need
structures. We need politics to get out of a lot of the things that we`re
doing and we need to be able to provide for our families and our children
and leave them with a legacy that our parents were trying in the `60s
trying to leave us with. So need to really get it together as far as, you
know, the president, they need to have his back, you know?

And, unfortunately, we might need to get those Republicans out of office so
hopefully we`ll have more Democrats in there to help him get through.

SCHULTZ: Now, I want to point out that these are three ladies that this
Essence Festival here in New Orleans -- did tell you I was going to talk to
you? No. Did I tell you I was going to talk to you? No. Did I just put
the microphone in front of you?

You heard three women articulate what their vision for America is and what
they`d like to see happen, just right off the cuff. Shouldn`t that be
somewhat of a message to a lawmaker that since you`re picking up the
paycheck in Washington, maybe you have a responsibility to these people who
have a mind, who have a heart, who have a soul, who have some concerns
about where we`re going? But all it is, is obstruction.

Now, I`m frustrated because Washington`s doing nothing. I want my money



SCHULTZ: I want my money back. I mean, I`m here working. They`re paying
me for working?


SCHULTZ: Well, where`s the Congress?

You`re holding a young child here. What`s your name?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My name is Dana Christian.

SCHULTZ: Hi, Dana. How are you?


SCHULTZ: Where are you from?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m from here in New Orleans.

SCHULTZ: You are holding the future.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I am holding the future. Yes, I am.

SCHULTZ: Your little baby is --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s my son Colt and my other son Bryce and my
husband Jason, and my mother Sylvia.

SCHULTZ: Well, you`ve got the whole family here.


SCHULTZ: What do you think of this festival?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think the festival is great. I think that the
message that you`re bringing and so many of our constituents from MSNBC is
so very important. I work in education and the politics in business that
is destroying public education, I think a part of the problem of what is
happening in this economy.

I think in New Orleans in particular we`re not preparing not just here but
all over this country we`re not preparing our kids for 21st century jobs in
the future, STEM jobs. Everyone has this path and we want our kids to go
to college, but the reality is not every kid is going to go to college.

So what are the opportunities and choices we`re providing to them? We have
to create better choices. We`re creating citizens to be able to
participate in the democratic process and what does that look like in the
education system today, and particularly with the agenda of these
Republican governors?

SCHULTZ: You are fantastic. Thank you so much. God bless you. All the
bless to you and you family.


SCHULTZ: Thank you.

Thank you so much. I love all of you.

This is the Essence Festival in New Orleans. There`s a lot more coming up
on THE ED SHOW. Stay with us. We`re right back.






UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, this isn`t so bad.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They final got it. I`m so proud. They`re ready for



SCHULTZ: The video of the IRS members dancing to the cupid shuffle was the
talk of Washington for weeks, in fact, Congress actually spent time and
effort scrutinizing an awkward dance video?

Cupid, the man behind the original shuffle isn`t getting enough credit.
His moves made serious waves across Congress and YouTube alike. So let`s
see what the fuss is all about.



SCHULTZ: Great to have you with us.

CUPID: Thank you, thank you.


SCHULTZ: From Lafayette, Louisiana.

CUPID: Yes, sir.

SCHULTZ: What did you think when you saw the video, your shuffle making it

CUPID: Well, I wish I could have kind of went and showed them before,
because I saw somebody had a brace, looked like somebody got injured.

SCHULTZ: Show us how you came up with it.


SCHULTZ: I like it.


SCHULTZ: All right. We got Asean Johnson from Chicago. He is a dancing


SCHULTZ: Oh, we`ve got another contestant here. Here we have Joy Reid
from "The Grio".

All right. Joy, let`s go. Here we go.


SCHULTZ: Cupid got it going. He`s got it going.


SCHULTZ: Come on, let`s hear it for Cupid.

CUPID: Thank you.

SCHULTZ: How`s life?

CUPID: Good. We just put you on television dancing.

SCHULTZ: How did you come up with the Shuffle?

CUPID: It felt good and I want to give a shout-out to my grandmother.
That`s her favorite move to the right to the left.


CUPID: Yes, she`s tuned in.

SCHULTZ: Let`s go.

But when you came up with it, and I mean it`s a simple move but it`s just a
happy move, it`s something that like everybody can a little bit of practice
can get it done.

CUPID: Yes, you know the type of music I make is feel-good music so we
wanted to make sure the song felt good and when we recorded it, it felt

SCHULTZ: What kind of response you get from young folks from around the
country on it.

CUPID: Everywhere I go, I say hi my name is Cupid. They say, what? I`d
say Cupid shuffle. Oh, OK.

SCHULTZ: "Cupid Shuffle."

You got the IRS folks doing it. Must be really good.

CUPID: Yes, yes, yes.

SCHULTZ: Now, how about this little right here? He`s got it.

Asean, the pressure is on, brother. Let`s go.

CUPID: Five, six, seven to the right, to the right.


SCHULTZ: All right. Joy Reid --

REID: I can`t top that.

SCHULTZ: Joy Reid, commentary, what do you think?

REID: I have to say I love the Cupid Shuffle. It has to be done at every
party. It isn`t a party until you do at Asean might have done it. I can`t
do it, but that was hot. You have to admit.

Right, right?

SCHULTZ: It was hot. It was hot.

REID: And yours wasn`t bad either. I got to tell you, Ed, I`m impressed
with your dance moves.

SCHULTZ: I got to drop 20 and then I`ll be right.

REID: Amen but it was all good. It was good with the 20.

CUPID: Do some aerobics, you`ll be all right.

SCHULTZ: We`re wrapping up THE ED SHOW.

SCHULTZ: Joy, this has been a great event down here at Essence Festival.

REID: This has been a great --

SCHULTZ: What`s it mean to you and our team?

REID: First of all I have to say the Essence Festival, love Ed Schultz,
right? It`s great seeing people have a great time, great food, nothing
better than New Orleans. Hanging out with Cupid, a little Asean, who is
future president of the United States. And it`s just been terrific.

SCHULTZ: All right. Let`s end gigging out to the "Cupid Shuffle." Let`s

REID: Let`s go. Let`s go.




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