Hopeful, if a bit skeptical. Positive. Cautiously optimistic.
Those were some of the words Korean Americans used to describe how they felt about the historic nuclear summit planned for June 12 in Singapore between North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and U.S. President Donald Trump.
At a minimum, Trump is eager to convince Kim Jong Un to curtail his capacity to reach the U.S. with nuclear weapons, while North Koreans want relief from crippling U.S. and international sanctions. A State Department official has said the U.S. is still looking for an agreement from Kim to give up all of his nuclear capabilities.
Sungkwan Jang, program director of the Korean American Grassroots Conference, a D.C.-based nonprofit advocacy group, said it’s difficult to generalize the entire Korean-American community’s take on the upcoming summit.
Jang said reactions can vary, for instance, among people of Korean descent born in the U.S. versus those born in South Korea who grew up in the U.S. That also extends to members of the older generation, including those who served in the Korean military, according to Jang.
North Korea, Jang noted, has a “bad precedent” of pulling out of agreements at the last minute or breaking promises.
But, he added, “I think everybody is more hopeful than ever before, though it’s cautious optimism.”
While getting North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons will likely take center stage at the June 12 summit, Korean Americans who spoke with NBC News said creating a way to allow family members in North and South Korea to reunite is an equally important component.
“If at a minimum we can, out of this summit, establish some sort of presence in North Korea, where we allow the older generation that have been separated to be reunited, I think when the world sees that there are people on the ground that have been separated for decades, family members, that is the type of people-to-people diplomacy that would be very effective,” he said.
The assemblyman added that he believes a majority of the Korean-American community would like to see steps toward both countries reunifying. But he said some, especially in the older generation, don’t want anything at all to do with North Korea.
Colligan said Koreans and Korean Americans were touched and overwhelmed by what they saw at the Kim-Moon meeting, which laid the foundation for the Trump-Kim summit.
Another symbolic move came earlier this year when both North and South marched together at the opening ceremony of the 2018 Winter Olympics in PyeongChang, South Korea, and for the first time competed as one in women’s ice hockey.
“North Korea, South Korea, Communist, Democratic, but they are Koreans,” Colligan said.
Esther Choi, a 21-year-old undergraduate student at Brown University who was born in Seoul and immigrated to the U.S. in 2010, said that for her it was a very “touchy moment” to watch Kim and Moon shake hands.
She added that she has very high hopes for the Trump-Kim summit.
“I believe it is a starting point for a lot of different kinds of peace processes that might be able to happen,” Choi said.
But optimism expressed toward what might come out of the summit was also tempered by skepticism, owing largely to the mercurial temperaments of both Trump and Kim.
Many Korean Americans interviewed expressed a range of concerns about what could go wrong, from whether Trump or Kim might suddenly call off the meeting to whether the North Korean leader will follow through on any commitments he makes to the U.S.
“We want this to go right,” Jang said. “I don’t think it would be realistic to expect that this one meeting is going to solve everything, but it is generally a huge step toward the right direction.”
Choi said she believes there’s a greater chance that Kim will stay true to his word, especially this time because he’s putting himself out in the public eye.
“I think that gesture itself means a lot,” she said.
That Trump has been able to bring Kim to the negotiating table has surprised some, though not all.
Colligan attributed Trump’s apparent success to being “tough” and “tricky.”
“The other presidents have more experience as a politician,” she said.
Trump, she added, “has life experience negotiating business deals.”
Kim, the state assemblyman, said it takes more than just one person to bring about a summit like this.
“It takes multiple administrations, timing, the right stakeholders,” the assemblyman said. “I think South Korean President Moon played a tremendous role in facilitating the right environment for diplomacy.”
I believe it is a starting point for a lot of different kinds of peace processes that might be able to happen.
Kim added that he was a bit surprised the summit is set to happen under the Trump administration. “But at the same time, I don’t think it should matter which administration it is, so long as it moves forward,” he said.
Choi, who noted that she doesn’t agree with a lot of things Trump does and says, said she was bothered by how the Trump-Kim summit has morphed into a partisan issue in some circles.
“It’s just the fact that two countries are at stake, and this is not some kind of game that they’re playing,” Choi said. “But I guess everyone has to grab on to what they can to gain as many votes as they can.”
Jang agreed that party politics shouldn’t be a factor.
“There are definitely people, not only in the Korean-American community, but in the media too, who are just trying to make this a partisan issue, who only oppose this upcoming summit only to oppose President Trump,” Jang said. “I’m really sad and it breaks my heart to see that.”
“Korea is not a partisan issue, it really shouldn’t be,” he continued. “All we’re asking for is stability there, peace and security.”