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Biden agrees U.S.-Russian relations are at a 'low point' ahead of meeting with Putin

Speaking to reporters after a meeting of the G-7, Biden drew a tougher line on Putin than his predecessor, Donald Trump.
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Ahead of his highly anticipated meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, President Joe Biden agreed Sunday that U.S.-Russian relations are at a "low point" and said he was open to a prisoner exchange with Moscow to clamp down on cybercrime.

On the first international trip as president, Biden spoke at a news conference marking the end of a meeting of the Group of Seven industrialized nations in the U.K., where the wealthy democracies put out a statement challenging Russia and condemning Chinese human rights abuses.

Biden will meet Wednesday with Putin at a villa on the shores of Lake Geneva in Switzerland — neutral territory for two leaders who do not want to show any deference to the other — where they are expected to discuss several issues, including Russia-based cybercriminals and ransomware attacks that have crippled some U.S. cities and infrastructure.

"Let me make it clear. I think he is right it is a low point," Biden said about Putin's recent assessment of the Moscow-Washington relationship. "And it depends on how he responds to acting consistent with international norms. Which in many cases he has not."

The FBI and other Western law enforcement and intelligence agencies have blamed criminal syndicates based in Russia for a string of recent cyberattacks, including the one last month against a pipeline that supplies much of the fuel for the East Coast.

Putin said in an interview with Russian state television Sunday that he would be open to extraditing criminals to the U.S. if Washington agrees to reciprocate.

Biden said he had just heard Putin's comments and was "open" to the idea, although he seemed to express doubt that any criminals in the U.S. were committing crimes against Russians.

"If there's crimes committed against Russia that, in fact, are — and the people committing those crimes are being harbored in the United States — I'm committed to holding them accountable," he said. "I think that's — that's potentially a good sign and progress."

Aboard Air Force One later as it flew from London to Brussels for the next leg of Biden's trip, national security adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters that Biden was "not saying he's going to be exchanging cybercriminals with Russia."

"What he was saying was that if Vladimir Putin wants to come and say, 'I'm prepared to make sure that cybercriminals are held accountable,' Joe Biden is perfectly willing to show up and say cybercriminals will be held accountable in America, because they already are," Sullivan said.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken told NBC News' Andrea Mitchell in an interview Sunday that Biden will confront Putin about cyberattacks.

"He is going to make clear that no responsible state can be in the business of harboring criminal enterprises engaged in cyberattacks, including ransomware. That's very much going to be part of the conversation," Blinken said.

"We'll respond forcefully, as the president has already demonstrated with the response to the SolarWinds cyberattack," Blinken said about the hacking of companies and federal agencies. "So I don't think we're going to get a clear and definitive answer from one meeting. But it's the start of testing the proposition of whether Russia also seeks a more stable, predictable relationship or not."

Biden's tone was a marked departure from the credulity and warmth former President Donald Trump showed toward Putin, whom he defended during a 2018 meeting in Helsinki even after Trump's own intelligence agencies said Russia and Putin had meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be," Trump said, siding with Putin over the U.S. government's analysts.

In a statement last week, Trump asked Biden to "please give [Putin] my warmest regards" and defended his "great and very productive meeting in Helsinki."

Biden and Putin will hold separate news conferences after their meeting in Switzerland, a sign of the chillier relationship.

Image: Trump and Putin shake hands in Helsinki
President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin shake hands at the beginning of a meeting at the presidential palace in Helsinki on July 16, 2018.Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP file

"This is not a contest about who can do better in front of a press conference," Biden said. "It's about making myself very clear what the conditions are to get a better relationship."

Biden said there are opportunities for cooperation with Russia, such as stopping ransomware attacks and providing humanitarian relief to global conflict zones where Russia has sway, such as Libya and Syria.

"There's a lot going on where we can work together with Russia," Biden said. "Russia has engaged in activities that we believe are contrary to international norms, but they've also bitten off real problems that they're going to have trouble chewing on."

Biden said that democracy is at risk around the globe and that democratic countries need to pull together to defend it. "We're in a contest not with China per se, but with autocrats," he said.

The meeting of the G-7 — the U.S., Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the U.K. — concluded with a statement calling on Russia "to stop its destabilizing behavior and malign activities" abroad and specifically mentioned the need to "urgently identify and disrupt ransomware criminal networks."

It also warned China about its "non-market" international economic policies and urged Beijing "to respect human rights and fundamental freedoms, especially in relation to Xinjiang," where the Muslim population has faced repression.

In an interview Friday with NBC News, Putin said that while Trump "is an extraordinary individual," he could work with Biden, as well.

"That's a different kind of person, and it is my great hope that, yes, there are some advantages, some disadvantages, but there will not be any impulse-based movements on behalf of the sitting U.S. president," Putin said of Biden.