Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine said he's looking forward to having a female boss for the first time in his long career — in this case, his running mate, Hillary Clinton.
"Other than supervising attorneys on occasion, this will be the first time I've had a female boss," Sen. Kaine told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow in an interview to be aired in full on Tuesday night at 9 p.m. — and he was a little taken aback by the realization.
"Wow, I hadn't thought of it that way," he chuckled.
A civil rights lawyer and self-described feminist, Kaine said he "relishes" the idea of reinventing gender norms in the White House alongside Clinton, who could be the first women elected president of the United States.
"I get to be now, play a supportive role — that's what the vice president's main job is — to a woman who's going to make history, to a president who will preside over the centennial of women getting the right to vote," Kaine said.
He added that as much as Clinton could normalize the idea of a woman in the White House, his vice presidency would normalize the notion that "strong men should definitely support strong women."
Of course, there's bound to be some confusion, Kaine acknowledged. For instance, he said: "Is my wife Second Lady if there's no First Lady?"
Nevertheless, Kaine said he was excited to create a new model.
"There's no complete playbook for this, but that's cool too," he said. "There's traditions that you honor, but it's always something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue. So you got to make your own traditions."
Maddow and Kaine also discussed how a possible Clinton presidency might reach out to Republicans. But when asked if there was a place for Donald Trump in a possible Clinton cabinet Kaine replied, "I think that's highly unlikely."